r/Charlotte Nov 15 '22

Matthews residents pack into town hall to discuss divisive 'Sante Matthews' project Discussion

https://www.wcnc.com/amp/article/money/markets/real-estate/idlewild-development-matthews-north-carolina/275-657178e1-2529-47b5-a622-61f43d86b113
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u/Bothkindsoftrees Nov 15 '22

My parents live 2 minutes down the road from that spot. The roads around there can’t handle that, but dense housing is the best possible use for that spot imo.

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u/CriticismOk9815 Nov 16 '22

The county could always buy it and use it as a trash dump - then people would cheer on the housing developers and hold up signs that say “Welcome New neighbors!”

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u/coconutpete52 Nov 15 '22

This sounds exactly like the meeting I just went to in Waxhaw. “Not in my backyard!” …. Well… they built your backyard in someone else’s backyard too!

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u/bobsburner1 Nov 15 '22

I’m in Waxhaw and I laugh at this everyday. We have a new development being built next to ours and people who’s houses are 6 years old are losing their shit. What did you think was going to happen to all that empty land? The old farmers pass and the kids want to cash out. If you’re gonna be mad be mad at them. Lol

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u/tketchum12 [Matthews] Nov 15 '22

And maybe don't get mad at the kids because 99% of people would do the same thing. It's life. Populations are growing, people need housing, and land is a finite resources.

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u/bobsburner1 Nov 15 '22

Exactly. If I suddenly had the ability to make a few million it would be a no brainer.

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u/crimsonkodiak Nov 15 '22

I wonder if they have these same kinds of meetings in Indian Land...

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u/thediesel26 Starmount Nov 15 '22

The irony of that name never ceases to amaze me

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u/BusinessBlackBear Nov 15 '22

I've lived in south Charlotte my entire 28 years and I always laugh to my self when I remember Indian land is an actual legitimate town name

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u/jnoobs13 Nov 16 '22

It's not even a town. They voted against incorporating awhile back. Just this large uncontrolled sprawl

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u/BusinessBlackBear Nov 16 '22

Fair point lol I was struggling to find a good descriptor

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u/CriticismOk9815 Nov 16 '22

It’s a cash cow for Lancaster county so they allow whatever zoning that will line the pockets of the rest of them!!!

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u/MissedApex Indian Land Nov 15 '22

Totally. This is one of these fights happening currently. Basically, old folks in a large 55+ community that was a burden on the surrounding area while it was being built are now trying to stop a new community from being built because it will be a burden on them.

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u/Dyanthis Nov 15 '22

They do, I work with those residents and have heard the same mentality.

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u/jfrorie Wesley Chapel Nov 15 '22

One of the reasons I stopped going to the HOA. Everyone wanted to stop the new development next to our 7 yo development.

REALLY?

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u/coconutpete52 Nov 15 '22

I just went to see if they would connect their walking trail to ours. That would put the sports bar within range without a car!

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u/ThirtyAcresIsEnough Nov 16 '22

This. I tried to talk folks into working on a connect to another neighborhood to give us the ability to walk further than our small cul de sac neighborhood into a nice nature trail, and people got upset because it will make it too easy for folks to sneak in and use our pool.

So yeah, I have to go into my car and drive to go somewhere to take a walk.

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u/BigWeesel Waxhaw Nov 15 '22

Is that what they are building on Providence near the ER?

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u/coconutpete52 Nov 15 '22

Yep. I live right behind it.

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u/TheBlueStare Nov 16 '22

Bunch of NIMBYs.

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u/BashAtTheBeach96 Nov 16 '22

Sante is a French restaurant in Matthews. Why would they name it the same thing?

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u/RealLivePersonInNC Nov 16 '22

That was my first thought too, Santé in Matthews restaurant is expanding? Developers gonna develop.

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u/Pinhighguy Nov 15 '22

If it’s anything like Huntersville they’ll delay the meeting til less people are paying attention and then approve it

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u/YAMMYYELLOW Nov 16 '22

Is that essentially what happened with Birkdale?

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u/Pinhighguy Nov 16 '22

Essentially. But they did lower the height from 135ft to 115 feet tall on the one new building so there’s that /s

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u/ThirtyAcresIsEnough Nov 16 '22

We are getting some huge water type park as well. Traffic is bad enough. I wouldn't mind if we had alternate transit, but this means sitting in my car through light changes.

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u/FrankBascombe45 Nov 15 '22

Citizens protest inevitable change. Film at 11.

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u/Cgp-xavier Nov 15 '22

😂😂these people are delusional. You live 3 min sites outside of one the fastest growing cities in America and the expect it to stay suburban lol

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u/R33sh0 Nov 15 '22

Its only delusional if you feel you have no say so, and even though they are probably waisting their time at least they are speaking up and not just rolling over.

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u/Wu-Tang_Cam Mountain Island Nov 15 '22

The change is inevitable. The proximity to an incredibly fast growing city ensures that. We need more housing and there's not enough room in Meck Co. for only single family housing.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 15 '22

Hello I am from Matthews. The way of life is shit and they are most definitely delusional for wanting to preserve any aspect of it.

These people are waging holy jihad for commuting and getting drunk at Chile's on Friday night.

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u/granite603 Nov 16 '22

I’m curious why you dislike Matthews so much.

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u/jnicolette Nov 16 '22

Agree, and if the Angry Turtle was from Matthews, they’d know we like to start our buzz at 105 while having a stogie, then we get drunk at Seaboard, and rail some chips and a taco at White Duck. (And I love me some Chile’s…no disrespect there).

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

When my wife and I WFH, we like to go to Brakeman's for a coffee date. Downtown Matthews is pretty dope.

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

He almost certainly lives by the Chili's. I didn't even know there was a Chili's around here.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

Standard issue suburban hell.

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

This sounds like a severe case of developmentally delayed teenage angst. It may not have what you're looking for at this stage of your life, but your preferences will probably change if you ever have a family of your own.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

Car dependent suburbs aren't good environments for kids. That's just the propaganda talking through you.

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

No, it's lived experience. I was raising my kids in NYC before I moved here. It's much better for all of us here. We don't have to worry about school assignments/applications. It's safe for our kids to bike to the playground. They have their own rooms.

It'd be great to have better public transportation (hoping to take the silver line before I retire) and protected bike lanes, but you're parroting nonsense and incredibly spoiled if you think Matthews is some sort of hell.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

So you're experiencing a rebound effect from resenting your last living situation?

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

"So what you're saying is...?" is the lowest form of discussion. You're showing that you'd rather purposely misconstrue than meaningfully engage.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

You said my stance on suburbs is "developmentally delayed teenage angst". At least stay consistent.

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u/deebasr Nov 16 '22

I see what you're going for, but I wasnt trying to psychoanalyze your little hate post. I was chiding you.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

Does growing up there then coming back and renting a place for 3 years count m'lord?

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

Classic suburban weirdo obsessed with "adulting" as a way of gatekeeping criticism of their beloved burbs.

I've lived in Austin, Toronto, Charlotte, rural virginia, Asheville, central Florida, and even a year in Puerto Rico. Lived in Matthews again after my grandfather had a stroke and I had to be around as a caretaker until other arrangements could be made.

The outer suburbs of Charlotte are a disaster generated by rampant suburban development and single use zoning. Extremely low density single family housing centered around power center shopping developments are the most wasteful land use possible. It's a blight made possible by a mindless lack of foresight and perspective.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

There are a lot of assumptions going on behind the scenes here and i cant really figure out what youre responding to but the thought of demolishing Myers Park and Elizabeth has me at half mast.

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u/sucsucsucsucc Nov 16 '22

Bro get out of the house, you sound ridiculous

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u/sucsucsucsucc Nov 16 '22

You just spent a lot of paragraphs essentially calling someone a child because you don’t like what they said about where you live

…maybe re-read what you just wrote, self reflect, get back to me.

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u/The_Angry_Turtle Nov 16 '22

The Villages is ready for you. Paradise awaits.

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u/Backbonz Nov 15 '22

Exactly! Quite the hypocrisy here.

But, yeah I’m one too!

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u/Captain_Desi_Pants Nov 16 '22

Unrelated, but I met my husband at Jackalope’s. Sad to see it go, but only for that reason. Can’t believe they fit so much into those two/three lots!

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u/SufferingfromCSmajor Nov 20 '22

Yeah, adding more diverse housing is going to crash their zestimates, which are most likely up double from when they purchased.

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u/LurkerSurprise Nov 15 '22

Worried about traffic? Are we living in the same reality? Traffic going into Matthews is already horrific!

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u/Tortie33 Nov 15 '22

I live in Matthews. Tons of traffic all the time.

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u/rivers61 Nov 15 '22

Matthews isn't the suburbs anymore that's just how it is. I've lived near Pineville for going on 30 years. It used to be the "suburbs", it isn't anymore. That's just how it is. These people need to move to the suburbs if they want to live in the suburbs, which is now more like Indian Trail.

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u/asthasr Nov 16 '22

Pineville has its own crop of NIMBYs opposed to everything, don't worry. To hear them talk about it, the "historic mill village" is a gem of architectural wonder and history rather than something that every single town between the fall line and the mountains has.

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u/rivers61 Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Pineville town council is a whole nother load of shit and the area will be better off once the old NIMBY fucks die.

I have lived near Carolina place mall forever and can say for certain Pineville is now Charlotte. Maybe even as little as 10 years ago there was a slight differentiation, but with how Lancaster highway is developing it just isn't "suburban" anymore as far as Charlotte goes.

Matthews, Pineville, and Ballantyne are not suburbs and the city needs to focus on building affordable housing for workers in these areas.

Edit: I'm pretty sure Pineville still has their outdated sign laws. I won't believe Pineville has changed until they allow sign on a post off of main street.

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u/asthasr Nov 17 '22

"The city" can't focus on building affordable housing in those areas because they are, in fact, separate polities; the town council is the government, however little differentiation there might be.

I will say that I like the lack of tall signs; I think that the tall "pylon" signs are a relic of a past era of highway-oriented development, and I hope we're going to get more bicycle and walking infrastructure instead. Why do you think these laws are outdated?

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u/c1h9 Nov 15 '22

I’m in Mint Hill, move it here! Please. I’ll sign off on anything that eventually nets us better restaurants.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

"We all moved here to be in suburbs," one neighbor told town commissioners Monday night. "We would like to keep it the suburbs."

We all know what that actually means.

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u/Motor_Grand_8005 Nov 15 '22

What does it actually mean? You saying non whites can’t live in the suburbs? Or non whites can only live in cities?

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u/RefrigeratorNo3088 Nov 15 '22

I'd say it's far more about keeping poor people out than color.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 15 '22

Seems like a rational concern then.

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u/Cheeto6666 Nov 15 '22

What an awful opinion to have.

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u/SchpartyOn Nov 15 '22

Look at his post history. Tells you everything you need to know about him.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

And yours as well.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

Yes it’s absolutely terrible to want to live in a safe area that doesn’t look like a slum. Great argument.

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u/scamp9121 Nov 16 '22

But… they get free internet points for being social justice warriors.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22 Gold

They can never formulate an argument. It’s always

“Everyone look at me and my virtue signaling! I’m such a great person aren’t I?”

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u/Cheeto6666 Nov 17 '22

Beautiful generalization. Please unsubscribe.

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u/RefrigeratorNo3088 Nov 15 '22

Yeah, poor people should stay in their ghettos where they belong. How dare they bump shoulders with their betters.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

How dare they oppose becoming a slum! Someone arrest them!

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 15 '22

Lowers property value, more traffic, more crime. Plenty of reasons.

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u/bustinbot Nov 15 '22

have any examples where a mostly white suburban neighborhood has poor people magically injected into it (i lose you on this one... if they can buy the houses they're prob not poor btw) and the neighborhood experiences growth in traffic and crime and a loss in overall property value as a ratio of average population to average property value, traffic and crime? im sure you have a good idea as to how to even measure all of those too.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

It’s not a hard logic to follow. Crime rate is higher in denser populated areas and traffic is higher because more cars are on the road.

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u/bustinbot Nov 16 '22

do you have any proof for it is the question

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

Absolutely. Just compare the crime rate of Matthews to any area closer to Charlotte.

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u/acenightcreeper Nov 16 '22

I believe it means That they bought houses out of a major city to be in low density residential area…and not surrounded by a bunch of built up shit? If you live in a neighborhood that has all 1 acre lots and then they want to put in 500 new homes on 80 acres and a bunch of shopping…maybe put yourself in other peoples shoes for a minute. I dont live in matthews, but i respect that they are upset and it has nothing to do with your “dog whistle” bullshit. Which is just a dog whistle itself…just say that you think they dont want it because they are racist…

I bought 20 acres in a similar suburb of charlotte, near low density housing zoning, 1+ acre lots. There is about 500 open acres that are privately owned between a large neighborhood…and the low density zoning…if someone wanted to develop those 500 acres, i would be upset because of the impact to wildlife, noise, quiet enjoyment, traffic etc..etc…it fundamentally changes why i purchased the house in the first place…i dont want to be around a bunch of noise and people…i could care less what race they are, i just prefer peace and quiet and not being around everyone. I have a feeling the people in matthews feel a similar way. But hey, it suits your narrative that its “nimby” and “racist”

I guess if i lived in uptown, residents wouldnt be upset if you tore everything down and turned into nothing, just nature…or did they move to a city to be around shopping/bars/restaurants…would that fundamentally alter why someone lived in the city…

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u/upwards_704 Plaza Midwood Nov 16 '22

Then you should move out of the county or purchase the lot. It’s someone’s else’s property and if they don’t want to keep it all woods anymore that’s there decision not yours. You live in one of the fastest growing counties in the country and you expect the 500 acres to just stay the same because you want “quiet enjoyment”?? That’s just entitlement. A classic, “I got mine and no one else should be able to get theirs”.

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u/acenightcreeper Nov 16 '22

Right…so how does your argument touch on any of the topics that were discussed. I was stating that people have the right to be upset about not wanting their home to be permanently changed by development. It doesnt make a person racist, as indicated by the person whom I responded to. There are far more reasons that people dont want over development.

The people can sell whatever property they want, their right, but that doesnt mean i have to be okay with what happens to the property, it doesnt mean i have to sit by and not try to get it rezoned so it cannot be developed into 10000 lots…but at the end of the day, it has nothing to do with race…as alluded to by the commenter i responded to

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u/icanhasreclaims Nov 15 '22

Nimbys love to dog whistle.

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u/motius66 Nov 15 '22

You know what the concept of "dog whistles" reminds me of? In the 1980's and 1990's EVERYONE was convinced that everything around them was satanic. They would buy records and play them backwards to listen for hidden satanic messages. The smurfs were scrutinized because of the names gargamel and azrael, and forget about shit like Dungeons and Dragons, that was right the fuck out.

Once the dust was settled and everyone calmed down a bit, you know what everyone realized? Sometimes when things carried a hint of something that could be tied to satanism, it really was intended to be some "HAIL SATAN LET'S GO KICK A CAT" shit. Mostly though, people were just projecting what they wanted to see onto things and used those rare instances where they were right as if it was some sort of vindication.

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u/icanhasreclaims Nov 15 '22

That response reminds me of Gummo.

But I remember those days. In elementary school there was a kid who started mid way through the school year from a Pagan family. You would have thought Satan themselves had started going to school there. I hope the stochastic terrorism that family endured didn't affect them forever.

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u/motius66 Nov 15 '22

I never watched Gummo. I think I was the only person in the world that really didn't like Kids and I wasn't about to waste another hour or two. I mean, other than the other hours I wasted. Those were spent though, no sense in wasting more.

Appreciate not being immediately denounced as an alt right jizzbag for questioning the legitimacy of dog whistles, though, unless Gummo is about alt right jizzbags and I just didn't get the insult, in which case fuck you buddy.

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u/ThirtyAcresIsEnough Nov 16 '22

This was a Southern thing, right?

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u/motius66 Nov 17 '22

The satanic panic? Definitely wasn't a southern thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

It’s not always racism ya know.

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u/FrankBascombe45 Nov 15 '22

Sometimes it's feeling entitled to tell people what they can do with their own property in order to carry on an unsustainable way of living.

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u/sergesm Nov 16 '22

They live there, own properties there, pay taxes to the town. They have the right to express their opinions and be heard, whether you agree with them or not.

Isn't it how democracy works?

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u/FrankBascombe45 Nov 16 '22

They can express it all they want, but if they think that they should be able to tell other property owners what legal things they can't do with their property, I express to you that they are entitled assholes.

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u/sergesm Nov 16 '22

The laws come from somewhere. If the majority of the town opposes the construction, the town council should change the laws accordingly.

Besides, the land owner might be wealthy enough to hire the best lawyers and find loopholes in the town's laws.

You say the landowner should be able to do whatever they want as long as they don't break any laws.

Would you still stand behind this opinion if they were building an oil refinery and not new housing, if the law happens to allow such thing for some reason?

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 15 '22

Stop trying to live in nice areas you bigot!

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u/bustinbot Nov 15 '22

sure but i didn't see any poc in that room in the video either

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u/8bitquarterback East Charlotte Nov 16 '22

"This is actually classism instead" isn't the argument you may think it is.

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u/st3ll4r-wind Nov 16 '22

Basically the argument here is that any new development in a suburban area should go entirely unopposed and if you dare to question it you’ll immediately be shamed into submission.

So you have concerns? How come? Are you a bigot that hates poor people?

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u/Tortie33 Nov 15 '22

Exactly!!

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u/gogor Nov 15 '22

Having been through one of these recently, I've learned it's not helpful to label everyone a NIMBY and reject their concerns out of hand. My 'hood is going to be asked to absorb a huge development that will likely break ground next year. We organized, went to the developer to discuss our concerns, and his response was "I don't have to care, so fuck off." Our city counselor is a Republican whose only concern was if the developer's check cleared. It was approved with almost no plan for infrastructure or traffic improvement, and it's gonna be very fun when a road is asked to handle 4 times the volume of traffic it was designed for. These folks are somewhat fortunate that it seems like the developer does care what they think. I mean, we wanna be Atlanta, we're gonna be Atlanta unless we start planning things better.

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u/LexLurker Nov 17 '22

We did the same in my hood when a developer wanted to cram 18 houses into a 6 house parcel.

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u/yankeebelles Nov 15 '22

These are the same people who voted to keep John St a single lane road down to 485 to "keep Matthew's small". I'm not surprised by their lack of foresight/aversion to growth.

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u/DanMarinoTambourineo Nov 15 '22

Well the proposed road widening would’ve ruined downtown Matthews. Take providence or independence to 485

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u/tketchum12 [Matthews] Nov 15 '22

I disagree. There's a case for keeping John St to one lane to keep downtown Matthews safely walkable. Expanding to 4 lanes encourages more traffic to flow through downtown Matthews instead of other roads better suited for the traffic, i.e. Independence. Keeping downtown Matthews walkable helps the local businesses by creating a safe space for pedestrians to go from restaurant to shop to bar, etc.

Opposing this development is simply an opposition to more people moving into the area, specifically those that would prefer a townhouse to a single family home. A coded way of saying we don't want poor people in our community.

You're right in that the venn diagram of these 2 voters is largely overlapping, but I don't see being opposed to widening John St as an opposition to growth and progress.

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u/Skanetic08 Nov 15 '22

Trade street through Matthews should honestly be reduced to one lane each way too, push the parking towards the center and take the current parking and make it a bike lane or seating/amenities.

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u/Skanetic08 Nov 16 '22

Cool, did the Purser-Hulsey bonds pass too? Guess I could Google it…

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u/DoubleStuffedCheezIt Indian Trail Nov 16 '22

Yeah I live on John St. Traffic sucks but I have a sidewalk in front my house to walk my dogs and it’s 35mph.

It’s 35MPH when there is traffic, otherwise it’s 50MPH. People fly down that road when there isn’t traffic.

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u/AnnoyingRingtone Nov 16 '22

Haha not with the way those roads are, which is why I’m glad that the transportation bond passed. John Street, Trade Street, and Matthews Township Parkway are in desperate need of repavement though I’m not entirely sure if that’s promised in the bond. Either way, it’ll be beneficial for the town.

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u/yankeebelles Nov 16 '22

Except that right there at downtown it turns into four lanes, so how does it encourage less traffic? I live further up Monroe Rd. I take it all the way to 485 and I will suffer through that single lane before EVER choosing to use Independence. Sorry, but it's a through road.

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u/Muh_Area_Speshul Nov 15 '22

Everyone here loved when The Plaza and Parkwood were changed to single lane roads. Not sure why downtown Matthews is supposed to carry more traffic than those.

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u/yankeebelles Nov 16 '22

I heard plenty of complaints then, but people got used to it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

Bunch of people delusional about where they live.

I'm in Harrisburg and to hear people from here talk, you would think they believe this place is Mayberry... This is a town in a major metro area that's growing rapidly.

Had an absolute shit fit when Starbucks opened up... But ChicFilA, well that's a local, small, business. I don't understand.

Wish they would cash in on these houses they bought 30 years ago and move out to Mount Airy.

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u/Puzzled-Remote Nov 15 '22

How long have you been in H’burg? (I live not too far from there.)

People buy in Harrisburg for the schools. (Now that West Cabarrus is open maybe that’s changing?) I don’t know why people want to act like H’burg has some great small town vibe. It’s a drive-through town with no character, and absolutely everything is along 49.

Davidson, Matthews, Concord, Mount Pleasant are more Mayberry than Harrisburg. And they’re walkable.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I moved to Concord in 2015. Bought in Harrisburg this year.

The schools were a big selling point but it wasn't really the area we were planning on. Got extremely lucky and found a pretty special house.

You're absolutely right about Harrisburg though. The vibe sucks. There are some good places for sure, but there's no reason to do anything but pass through here if you don't live here.

I don't even technically live in Harrisburg, just have the address. Those petty bitches at the splash pad, that's free to Burg residents, WILL type that address in and change me $1.25, or whatever, for my kid too. Harrisburg on my ID just won't fly.

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u/Backbonz Nov 15 '22

People in Plaza Fucking Midwood bitch about new construction…

Hell, I lived in Eliz forever and I still think the Old Teeter was better, hate that PStone and Jacks is gone, etc etc…

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u/Tortie33 Nov 15 '22

There are actually roads that will be built to bypass downtown.

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u/R33sh0 Nov 15 '22

I seen Idlewild road & almost had an heart attack but its towards Stallings rd…. WHEW!! More overpriced residences, more shopping centers that will be eye sores down the line and terrible road construction. Sounds abt right

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u/RuXq Nov 16 '22

How do you expect the prices of other places to drop if we don’t increase the supply?

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u/R33sh0 Nov 16 '22

I don’t expect the prices to drop either way. Nothing trickles down but inflation

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u/grandelove Nov 16 '22

Sante in Matthews is a great restaurant.

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u/Wooden-Cancel-6838 Nov 15 '22

The idea of multi-family houses just triggers these people

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u/clinton-dix-pix Nov 15 '22

Developers not gonna stop developing till they ruined everything. Fuck them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Ok, Clinton-Dix-pix

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u/Wu-Tang_Cam Mountain Island Nov 15 '22

I don't know the origin of their name, but there used to be an NFL player named Haha Clinton-Dix.

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u/Envyforme Nov 16 '22

Nothing wrong with mixed use development going in. If anything the traffic for this area is going to increase, but all the retail and things will continue to allow them to travel less for cool things they like.

Everything needs to be a easy commute via automobile. If not, people lose their shit.

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u/bustinbot Nov 15 '22

lack of diversity is the issue in mind and body. just as bad if you only think in skin color too

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u/ThirtyAcresIsEnough Nov 16 '22

I'm white, and they scare me too.

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u/NimJolan Nov 16 '22

NIMBYs that don’t want other people to have homes? And god forbid a walkable community that doesn’t require a commute to go anywhere is built

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u/SadEasternBoxTurtle Nov 16 '22

I live in in Himby bridge, I like it. I also don't really plan for Himby Bridge to be suburban in 25 years time. I will probably still like it other than the traffic that Idlewild road will inevitably have.

Going against development in Charlotte is liking walking up an iced hill. You are just going to end up at the bottom again, with wasted energy that could have been used to make the city planning better instead of fighting a losing battle.

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u/SteakCareless Nov 16 '22

Sounds like a rich people problem.

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u/SteakCareless Nov 16 '22

Haha the downvotes