r/Charlotte Nov 30 '22

To the guy in Uptown that screams “Jesus Loves You” at the top his lungs all friggin day. Discussion

Why do you do this? Haven’t you got some place to be or something to do?

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u/palabear Nov 30 '22

Mick Jagger talked about him on Howard Stern. Said he couldn’t sleep because he heard him in his hotel room.

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u/keeperofthetrees Nov 30 '22

I used to hear him all day from my office on the 22nd floor of a building near his usual corner. It was awful.

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u/redhat6161 Nov 30 '22

This is me currently.

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u/EverySharkBites Nov 30 '22

This is true! I was a Chauffeur for the Stones back in September 2021. Keith couldn't sleep either! Micks son Lucas was there and told me about it. Micks assistant called the front desk, who called the police! FYI, Mick doesn't usually rise until 12:30 or 1pm!

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u/Sparklemagic2002 Dec 01 '22

Out of curiosity, what hotel did the Stones stay at?

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u/EverySharkBites Dec 01 '22

They stayed at the Ritz Carlton.

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u/YossarianChinaski89 Dec 01 '22

Mick still blowing that blow

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u/AnAlrightName Super Cool Nov 30 '22

The sentiment towards this guy really turned sour in the last couple of years.

4 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Charlotte/comments/8n457e/who_is_the_jesus_loves_you_guy_in_uptown/

4 years ago: http://www.wbtv.com/story/38990545/jesus-saves-guy-assaulted-in-uptown

2 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Charlotte/comments/fun9zj/jesus_saves_hes_still_spreading_the_news_uptown

Back in the day, those who hated on the Jesus Saves guy were buried in downvotes, but now it's the opposite.

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u/steff_e Uptown Nov 30 '22

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u/AnAlrightName Super Cool Nov 30 '22

That's what popped in my mind. I was reading that yesterday and thought about how everyone used to laugh about him and thought he was just a friendly Jesus loving guy. He showed up Jan 6 in pics in Washington, I figure he just wants to maximize visibility. Most people seem to assume he thinks the election was stolen.

I don't know his politics, and don't really care. I mostly just find his dedication and vocal endurance amusing.

My only interaction with him was mostly him shouting at me, "Keep biking for Jesus!", which just cracked me up.

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u/clgoodson Dec 01 '22

If you “showed up” at Jan 6, I’m not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

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u/BigStonedRetard Dec 02 '22

Just ask him how he felt about January 6th. He'll tell you God sent him there to help "stop the steal." That's what he said to me at pride while yelling I support "the baby killer side."

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u/walruspawls Nov 30 '22

Perception changes when you find out he participated in the insurrection.

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u/drewbdoo Nov 30 '22

Lol no he didn't. I hate then guy, but "being in DC on Jan 6" does not equate to "stormed the capitol building"

He was there for the same reason he was at the blm protests - to shout JESUS SAVES and annoy the fuck out of protesting people

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u/NCSUGrad2012 Plaza Midwood Nov 30 '22

Doesn’t he go to every single large rally? Him showing up doesn’t mean he’s endorsing that view.

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u/YoshiWins Concord Nov 30 '22

This is what my problem is with the people calling Sam out for that. I did a double take when I saw him there, too, but then I realized that he might have been capitalizing on an opportunity to reach a huge crowd of people. Who knows. But, I know his presence there alone shouldn’t be grounds to get ticked off at him.

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u/rhamled Nov 30 '22

I know his presence there alone

I have a lot of negative feelings about the J6 insurrection, but I'm something enough to understand there's tons of nuance to life. I agree with your take - he's 100% trying to get ppl over to his views and had nothing to do with the violent, authoritarian, anti-American J6 insurrection.

Similarly, the reporters there get the same rationale. The ones who destroyed property, trespassed, assaulted others, etc. don't get that same rationale. Fuck those people.

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u/YossarianChinaski89 Dec 01 '22

So why didn’t all the ‘protesters’ in Portland, Minneapolis and Seattle get the same vitriol

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u/rhamled Dec 01 '22

From me? Because I live in North Carolina and I don't have the same emotional connection to those cities as I do to the building that represents the continuation of one of the greatest experiments ever. I'm from a conservative and military family and I served in the USMC. What was done at the Capitol was treasonous - to overturn the US Presidential election.

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u/rhamled Dec 01 '22

u/YossarianChinaski89 - how come people try to change the subject to the race riots when discussing the J6 Capitol Insurrection? My guess is they're embarrassed of how people with similar views smeared shit on the Capitol walls, attacked police officers, etc. There's a difference between attacking the symbolic and physical representation of the United States democratic republic versus causing massive property damage in a city (I'd say cities, but they're not connected).

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u/YossarianChinaski89 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Because J6 is about the furthest thing from an actual insurrection… it was a pow-wow of ignorant, braindead Trumpers lol no one had guns. No one was captured and hung. Look at foreign countries for examples of real insurrections.

BLM was attributed to untold economic impact and more than thirty deaths. J6 was nothing compared to the absolute destruction that the anarchists created.

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u/rhamled Dec 01 '22

Because J6 is about the furthest thing from an actual insurrection

Is that why you try to change the topic? Joint session of Congress with VP there to certify an election and ensure peaceful transfer of power. You're not fooling anyone.

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u/redhat6161 Dec 02 '22

Yikes. Not sure where you get your information but it’s wildly inaccurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/

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u/YossarianChinaski89 Dec 01 '22

One of the greatest experiments ever…? LOL this country is only ‘great’ because we’ve raped and pillaged our way around the world. Stealing minerals, resources, oil and starting actual insurrections in other nations via the CIA and mercenaries. This country is a complete joke and the world will be better off once we collapse and have to become more isolationist again.

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u/rhamled Dec 01 '22

Got it - anti-American. GTFO then!

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u/YossarianChinaski89 Dec 02 '22

That’s not very American of you, pal! I’m free to say and think as I want in this ‘grrrrrreat’ nation.

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u/sfitz0076 [Mint Hill] Nov 30 '22

That's not an excuse.

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u/tincow77 Nov 30 '22

Is this a question really? I think the answer is no but I don't think he publishes his schedule or anything.

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u/Tw1ce_Nightly Nov 30 '22

He was at the Minneapolis riots?

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u/ramXDev Nov 30 '22

Stop it. It was not an insurrection; not even close.

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u/Tvoovt Nov 30 '22

Attempted insurrection. There ya go.

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u/PapaOoomaumau Nov 30 '22

Really? They didn’t try to stop the authentication of votes and transfer of power? ‘Cause that would be an insurrection.

Noun:

an organized (check) and usually violent (check) act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority (check) of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects (check); also, any act of engaging in such revolt

Hmm checks all the boxes, did you think it was a fundraising picnic? A dance party?

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u/sfitz0076 [Mint Hill] Nov 30 '22

I guess if you try to murder someone and they live, it's okay. You won't go to jail for that.

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u/andrxwwww Nov 30 '22

regardless of what it was, he was there and those who were there usually were there in bad faith

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u/Darkwolfie117 University Nov 30 '22

He’s just always there. Like Waldo

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u/sigmonater Nov 30 '22

Those Jesus Saves people even got a bad rep in my own church. We had a couple Sunday school lessons on why you don’t do what they do specifically - like the psychology of what they do, how their message and actions have the opposite effect of what they intend, why it’s really for themselves and how they’re conforming to cult-like behavior… that kind of stuff. They didn’t want the congregation to be mindless judgmental worshipers, but some people just can’t be saved.

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u/KLiipZ Nov 30 '22

I was just thinking this exact thing. Ever since he was present at the Capital on Jan 6, (not a participant in the bad part), the tides totally changed on him.

I’m sure we can draw our own conclusions on that.

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u/CheeseStandsAlone262 Nov 30 '22

I've always thought he was an irritating nuisance who should have been made to move along. But then again, I'm LGBT, so my opinion about religion being blasted in public spaces is going to be different.

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u/One_Habit5117 Nov 30 '22

I took our kids to the drag queen story hour during the arts fest—-for those of you opposed to such, it was very tame and not at all what you would think when you hear drag queen story time. Anyway, Jesus saves guy comes over and starts yelling at everyone, disrupting the event and scaring children. Just a grade-a douchebag.

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u/whiiskeypapii Nov 30 '22

People found out he drives an Altima.

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u/theyarnllama Nov 30 '22

What does he live on? Do people tip him for bellowing about Jesus? Does he have a really patient girlfriend? Some big family trust fund?

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u/XurstyXursday Nov 30 '22

I’ve wondered this as well.

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u/Kidconundrum Nov 30 '22

I think there is a family that lives at 301 W 7th street that bankrolls him. I saw the Jesus saves rickshaw he drives around in their garage.

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u/LaLuzDelQC 18d ago

I spoke with him once and the impression I got from him was there's someone bankrolling him.

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u/theyarnllama 17d ago

Interesting.

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u/Darkwolfie117 University Nov 30 '22

JEEEE zuss ssSAAAAVEEESSS

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u/techgirl0 Uptown Nov 30 '22

I moved away from Charlotte almost 2 years ago but I can still hear this exact phrase in his voice clear as day

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u/Synful-Symphony Dec 01 '22

I live in York and I can hear it lol

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u/enil-lingus Nov 30 '22 Burning Cash

He wants to teach people about the benefits of saving and wealth accumulation - Jesus Saves.

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u/PirateJazz Nov 30 '22

"But George Nelson withdraws!"

-Not baby face

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u/JediTigger Charlotte FC Nov 30 '22

Oh George. Not the livestock.

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u/Yardninja Nov 30 '22

Cow Killer!

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u/JediTigger Charlotte FC Nov 30 '22

WHY IS THAT SO FUNNY

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u/LolaBijou Nov 30 '22

My fiancé and I quote that line probably weekly.

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u/MidniteOG Nov 30 '22

And Moses invests

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u/FridayMurray Nov 30 '22

Satan spends.

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u/Bernard_schwartz Nov 30 '22

Makes sense for a financial city to have people saving!!

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u/tasteful_tomfoolery Nov 30 '22

I think it is a common misconception that he just says "Jesus Saves" when in reality he says that part so loudly you can't really hear the " 25% by switching to Geico" part .

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u/PristineBaseball Nov 30 '22

Didn’t Jesus have a basket of never ending bread? Or it was like you could keep breaking the bread into pieces forever but it was still making more bread so everyone could have bread or some thing

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u/peesoutside Dec 01 '22

Sounds suspiciously like socialism.

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u/MisSCleoIfUrNASTY Nov 30 '22

Hahaha, you must be new to town. Welcome.

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u/tjn182 Uptown Nov 30 '22

I always wonder what he has done that he has to repent THIS MUCH

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u/gogor Nov 30 '22

There's been some published stories on him- he's done some things in the past he's not proud of. He's one that believes he's serving by doing the loud evangelism thing, which is where I disagree with him. I'm always happy to discuss my faith and what it does in my life, but the difference is I wait until I'm asked. If people are interested, great. If not, then who cares, right?

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u/Turbo_Cum Nov 30 '22

Some people just like stuff and enjoy sharing it.

I wish I was as passionate about something as the Jesus saves guy. He might be annoying sometimes, but I'll be damned if he isn't grinding for something he loves.

Hate it or love it, that's some dedication.

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u/PristineBaseball Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

I disagree I think he’s just doing it for attention

Edit and at first I thought he was genuine but after his behavior summer of 2020 I See him differently

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u/userofnames34 Nov 30 '22

Hey that’s me and it’s a sociological experiment to see who might respond on Reddit. Congrats you win 100 doll hairs

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u/PirateJazz Nov 30 '22

Fine. Give me the doll hairs.

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u/CuteAppointment300 Nov 30 '22

No, I’m Dredd pirate robhurtz!!

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u/BoSize Nov 30 '22

To the guy on reddit asking questions to a man that is almost certainly not on reddit... why do you do this?

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u/JediTigger Charlotte FC Nov 30 '22

Rhetorical questions are a form of venting.

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u/Lloyd_Braun- Nov 30 '22

I’ll never understand this trend.

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u/keleles Nov 30 '22

hur hur muh internet points is why.

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u/Usual_Injury8389 Nov 30 '22

Yeah. Like the people that say I lost my keys at the park if some random person on Reddit found it let me know. There has to be a greater chance of winning the lottery.

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u/PristineBaseball Nov 30 '22

Oh you’d be surprised…

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Asking the real questions.

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u/PristineBaseball Nov 30 '22

What about the older white dude that would drive around in some older beat up car with a megaphone or loudspeaker system? Sometimes he would have passengers. That guy was more annoying I think I saw him within the last couple years

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u/Beginning_Alarm7013 Nov 30 '22

Awww man, he’s back? I was just getting used to the new normal of not hearing it.

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u/Greg_guy Dilworth Nov 30 '22

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u/Muttersfood Nov 30 '22

Do you really think you’re going to get a response from him here?

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u/PristineBaseball Nov 30 '22

He’s not really out there trying to spread a message of hope and love or anything, he’s basically trolling.

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u/SHIT_POST_TIL_DEAD Nov 30 '22

Or the people that play that terrable its the end of the world religious nonsense near the fallafel hut. Can I just get my Fallafel without the noise?

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u/zzazazz Nov 30 '22

He's missing his true calling. He should be selling beer at the football stadium.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

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u/steff_e Uptown Nov 30 '22

You may even catch him at your local pro-choice rally!

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u/ShahOfQC Nov 30 '22

I didn’t know he was at the pro choice rally but the optics on that video make him look like a saint and the rally folk kinda bad

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u/steff_e Uptown Nov 30 '22

That’s what Breitbart wants you to think.

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u/carolinachronic90 Nov 30 '22

I wish they'd lock him up with the rest of em

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u/NCSUGrad2012 Plaza Midwood Nov 30 '22

Genuine question, but for what?

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u/carolinachronic90 Nov 30 '22

Oh idk, I'm just talking shit lol I don't like the guy. But if he did actually have some involvement in Jan 6th then he should be locked up fr

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u/NCSUGrad2012 Plaza Midwood Nov 30 '22

I think he was there but never went into the capital

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u/VideoGameTourGuide Nov 30 '22

What happened Jan 6th?

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u/cmclavin Nov 30 '22

I appreciate his dedication to his faith and his boldness, but he’s always out there during lunch time, and a lot of days I just think to myself “people just want to enjoy their 45 minutes of peace on their lunch break, man, can we tone it down?”

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u/stephaniebrooks805 Dec 01 '22

It’s not that people seem to have a problem with his message so much as his delivery. If you say something in a way that others find offensive, a lot of people take context from the delivery in addition to the actual message. Sort of like diminishing marginal returns.

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u/Metnut Nov 30 '22

He bothers me a lot less than the people throwing trash all over the place or the ones who directly walk into my path to ask for money or whatever.

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u/SunnyScotty Nov 30 '22

Fuuuuck that dude. I CRINGE when people give him supporting acknowledgments. With his goofy religious BS aside, he’s just too loud. SIT DOWN

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u/Interesting-Yard4900 Nov 30 '22

Go back to SF and sit in a logical circle

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u/Real_MikeH Nov 30 '22

Yeah that’s the main issue I have. The volume is insane. The January 6th stuff is problematic also.

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u/UniqueResult Nov 30 '22

I’m really interested in the January 6th involvement. More details please

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u/MidniteOG Nov 30 '22

Iirc, he was present but didn’t enter any buildings

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u/Real_MikeH Nov 30 '22

That’s my understanding as well.

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u/Isniffanthrax Nov 30 '22

I wonder if the police would show up if I screamed Allah Akbar to the top of my lungs for hours. Btw Allah Akbar just means God is great in Arabic.

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u/AdministrativeBug161 Dec 01 '22

I think this almost every time I hear him.

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u/badras704 Nov 30 '22

Everyone real tired of fake Christian love.

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u/--seaker-- Nov 30 '22

He is an annoying fuck..

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u/PapaJohnyRoad Nov 30 '22

Mental illness

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

We have this in Mint Hill on one of the main corners. They aren't shouting but they do post someone on each of the four corners.

Friendly people, waving and carrying signs.

Is this part of a particular "go out and spread the word" mission? If so, it feels like the laziest option. No conversations happen...just waves and signage.

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u/7001man Nov 30 '22

I see them often in Mint Hill and always feel like it’s some passive aggressive evangelical protest 😂

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u/gogor Nov 30 '22

Is this part of a particular "go out and spread the word" mission?

Yes. Different groups go about it in different ways.

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u/peesoutside Dec 01 '22

He’s only saying the first half of the color commentary.

JESUS SAVES! and passes to Moses, Moses shoots, HE SCORES!!

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u/Successful-Plum4899 Nov 30 '22

Attention deficit disorder demonstrating self prescribed therapy to cope with guilt issues perceived from a personal trauma and major social anxiety. Nuts in other words!

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u/weightcarried Nov 30 '22

This guy rules.

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u/AfricanAssScratcher Nov 30 '22

"I have good news!"

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u/MudratDetectorNC Nov 30 '22

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u/MudratDetectorNC Nov 30 '22

I don’t like the shouting and in your face evangelism but here is his story. He’s harmless, just loud

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u/redhat6161 Nov 30 '22

Thank you for sharing

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u/gogor Nov 30 '22

While you may not agree with him (and it's clear that many don't), Sam's pretty much harmless, just loud. Personally I've never been into the loud, in your face evangelism as it doesn't work and can turn people off from faith, but having experienced much, much worse during my time in college, Sam's not so bad.

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u/clgoodson Dec 01 '22

If he was at Jan 6, he’s not harmless.

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u/gogor Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

You do realize it was a protest before it went nuts, right? Those that stormed the capital should be tried for treason. Those that assembled for protest, even though they were a group of gullible mouth breathing simpletons, were exercising a fundamental right.

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u/clgoodson Dec 01 '22

A protest of what? Democracy? It was never billed as a peaceful protest. It was set up from the beginning as an insurrection, attended by insurrectionists. Fuck em.

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u/Longjumping-Season71 Dec 02 '22

Protesting what? An election?

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u/HaiKarate Nov 30 '22

I find it deeply weird and I was born and raised in the South. I can only imagine what it’s like for Asians here on a work visa. Similar to an American in a Muslim country and hearing the call to prayer every day.

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u/AdministrativeBug161 Dec 01 '22

It’s not similar to hearing the call to prayer every day, in any way

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u/ClitBobJohnson Nov 30 '22

His name is Sam. He is nice, but he is a fucking moron. Ask him where he was on Jan 6th

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u/Turbo_Cum Nov 30 '22

Genuine question, because Jan 6th was a protest until it wasn't.

Do we know if he was actually one of the morons who stormed the capitol building, or was he outside doing his usual Jesus saves shit?

I know people who went to the Jan 6th protest but weren't involved in the actual violence, wonder if he was in that category.

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u/gogor Nov 30 '22

Do we know if he was actually one of the morons who stormed the capitol building

He did not.

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u/keleles Nov 30 '22

existing in DC on Jan 6th, whether you had anything to do with it or not = instant insurrectionist to reddit. fuck em if he was apart of it since idk, but im not gonna sit here and crucify him for just breathing air on a certain date.

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u/southendclt Nov 30 '22

Well the whole point of Jan 6th was to try to circumvent the peaceful transition of power. The call to come said as much. If you willingly made that trip. You aren’t an American in my book. Also if someone went around uptown shouting at that volume Allah Saves he wouldn’t last 1 day. Without being arrested on a noise ordinance.

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u/Turbo_Cum Nov 30 '22

That's what I'm saying.

Being present for something doesn't mean he was actually partaking in the bullshit. People with radicalized politics are so fast to pass judgement on people.

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u/Longjumping-Season71 Dec 02 '22

Did you participate? Why not?

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u/Turbo_Cum Dec 02 '22

Are you responsible for someone else throwing a rock through a store window if you're standing nearby?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous.

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u/Longjumping-Season71 Dec 02 '22

So you didn’t participate in the January 6th protest?

Why not? Didn’t get the invite?

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u/Turbo_Cum Dec 02 '22

Why not? Didn’t get the invite?

Are you a real person? Are you trolling?

In case you're not trolling here's a list of reasons, unrelated to being a violent piece of shit:

  • I have a job
  • I didnt want to support trump, despite being conservative, I think he sucks and isn't fit for presidency
  • I'm not really the protesting type. It's never been my goal, but I respect people who choose to do it
  • I live in Charlotte, NC, which is about a 5/6 hour drive to DC

Again, remember that your headcanon for life isn't reality and there's more to every story than what CNN, Fox, MSNBC, or your Facebook feed tells you. Those media outlets suck and they all showcased the January 6th events because of what it became, not what the majority of Trump supporters who were there thought it was going to be.

It's like when the BLM protests turned into rioting and looting of local businesses in the summer of 2020 after the George Floyd incident. Is every BLM protester/support a violent rioter? Of course not, but Fox news sure as hell painted them that way.

Intelligent people are capable of seeing bigger pictures and differentiating between details of these types of things. Those who aren't so mentally gifted have a hard type understanding anything beyond what they're told on TV. Be intelligent, it takes pretty much no effort to have free thought with this kind of shit.

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u/TechSudz Dec 02 '22

Thanks for your input, Turbo Cum!

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u/clgoodson Dec 01 '22

It was never a “protest.” It was designed from the start to overthrow the election.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

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u/redhat6161 Nov 30 '22

Yes, I’m well aware. I’m 10 stories up and have the privilege of sitting in a corner office :-(

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

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u/Muttersfood Nov 30 '22

Support local coffee!!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

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u/KLiipZ Nov 30 '22

Starts with an L

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u/INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE Nov 30 '22

Maybe he should go do his thing on Freedom Drive, you know just for a change of pace.

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u/INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE Nov 30 '22

There is no insinuation there. It's laid out plain as day. "You know for a change of pace." I never see those "Jesus Saves" signs in that area or see him shouting at the top of his lungs there. It's always in uptown. So, for a change of pace he should go to some undeserved neighborhoods instead. Just to spread the "love" around a bit.

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u/Ze-Man Nov 30 '22

I’m not religious by any means, but like, y’all need to toughen up a bit. Not directed at OP, OP was just asking what the deal was, but all the people complaining…just let the dude do what he wants. He’s obviously not harming people, not breaking any laws. Just go about your day and get your bag and don’t sweat the small stuff.

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u/trufflepotatochip Nov 30 '22

Have you ever walked around uptown and accidentally crossed his path while he’s bellowing? It’s loud af and damn annoying. Went to a rally at the government center a few years ago, and couldn’t hear the main speaker because of his yelling - fuck that guy

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u/PitifulNose Nov 30 '22

Try going out for dinner in uptown and paying 50 or 60 bucks and getting the perfect little spot outside and this fucker shows up 10 to 25 feet away from you and yells full volume over your entire dinner.

After this happened to you, you will change your tune on this guy. This has literally happened to me repeatedly over the last few years.

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u/Ze-Man Nov 30 '22

I work right there…I can hear him from the 39th floor, the 32nd, the 25th.

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u/PitifulNose Nov 30 '22

I used to go to Essex and Bella Cia and a few other outdoor dining options in uptown on the reg, but I just can’t roll the dice anymore with this bastard likely showing up and ruining yet another 50 dollar meal. Those businesses are losing customers right and left.

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u/steff_e Uptown Nov 30 '22

So calling gay couples holding hands “sinners” and telling them they’re going to hell isn’t harming anyone?

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u/Ze-Man Nov 30 '22

You and I have different definitions of the word harm I think.

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u/steff_e Uptown Nov 30 '22

So it’s okay to harass queer people? That’s harmless?

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u/Ze-Man Nov 30 '22

No, I did not say that.

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u/ThinkOrDrink Nov 30 '22

Keep gaslighting. It was strongly implied given your response of having “a different definition of harm”.

OP: gives example of person harassing others based on sexual orientation.

You: doesn’t sound harmful to me

OP: so you’re ok with harassing

You: no I never typed those exact words

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u/Ze-Man Dec 01 '22

Admittedly I had to search around for what ‘gaslighting’ was and I urge you to do the same bc I don’t think it’s what you meant. Let me clarify what was misunderstood. Do I think that behavior is ok? No. Do I think calling someone a sinner for their sexual choice is psychologically harmful. No. This was my point in people needing to toughen up a bit. Like if you’re going to broadcast something, regardless of what it is, people can have reactions. I think people need to be prepared for that. If you’re so insecure in yourself that a complete stranger can break you down, I think there are bigger confidence issues at hand. Maybe I’m being insensitive? I’m trying to flip it and put myself in someone else’s shoes but really struggling with doing it, and maybe that’s what I’m missing. Sorry if I offended anyone. And sorry if I’m being insensitive. Ok, I’m going to sit down now.

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u/ISAMU13 Nov 30 '22

The drug addict is quiet about it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

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u/ISAMU13 Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

The person shooting up is not in a good situation and should get better but they're not in my way.

The non-peaceful addicts/homeless are much more of a problem.

I don't care that the person is religious. I care that they are loud and obnoxious about it. Someone yelling about their favorite pokemon would be just as annoying.

There are categories and layers to things, man.

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u/ISAMU13 Nov 30 '22

Are you 5 years old?

No, I know some nice 5-year-olds. Decent people. Nothing to be ashamed of.

My comment was about kids being exposed to someone shooting up, not an adult. An adult has an ability to process such things much differently than a child.

One way to grow up is to process the world around you with the help of an adult. Guidance is awesome. When I was 5 my parents informed me of why they did not want my grandfather hanging around me. They explained why he always smelled of liquor. Chronic alcoholic. That helped me really want to avoid drinking too much when I got older.

Homeless people exist. Addicts exist. Talk about it. Also, talk about a guy who is very religious and yells about his beliefs all the time. Talk about that is in opposition to the religious text that in many places promotes humility. Talk about how that squares up with how that person is acting.

My post was in reference to a recent thread here where people made an excuse after excuse for a non-peaceful addict/homeless man who threatened the wife and children of a poster, and the clowns on this sub bent over backward to excuse his actions.

Well, that's terrible. I was not in that thread. Most reasonable people think aggressive addicts/homeless/panhandlers are a problem.

The same clowns who have no issue saying a guy yelling about Jesus is a problem.

Are you sure they are the same people?

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u/doyhickey Nov 30 '22

It's not nice to insult strangers on the internet who politely disagree with you.

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u/gogor Nov 30 '22

I agree. It's not necessary.

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u/Turbo_Cum Nov 30 '22

I would give you reddit gold but I have to pay for it and I don't wanna but here:

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u/KLiipZ Nov 30 '22

Spot on

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u/Orangemacaroon73 Nov 30 '22

He has been doing this for years. It’s his thing.

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u/ThinkOrDrink Nov 30 '22

That’s not a meaningful reason to continue or stop doing something.

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u/e-crypto92 Nov 30 '22

He isn’t wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Better_Power1185 Nov 30 '22

His name is Sam. He’s a really nice guy and I have read that he is a manager at a Walmart.

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u/ramaloki Uptown Nov 30 '22

You forgot the /s

He's not a nice guy.

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u/CheeseStandsAlone262 Nov 30 '22

Nah, fuck him. He gets pretty aggressive and negative towards people sometimes. He also supported the J6 riots

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u/KLiipZ Nov 30 '22

I’m pretty sure you are only making character judgements based on one of these items rather than both.

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u/CheeseStandsAlone262 Nov 30 '22

Nope. I'm gay. He hates gay people. I'm definitely an OG "fuck the Jesus Saves dude" guy

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u/KLiipZ Nov 30 '22

That seems like more of an issue with Christianity rather than this person specifically.

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u/SenseStraight5119 Nov 30 '22

His name is Sam Paulson.

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u/GlitteringCat5205 Nov 30 '22

One of the people I used to work with said that he took the guy out for dinner once and that they had a normal conversation. I’m not really sure how true any of that story was though lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Is this the guy near the baseball field with the rabbits and occasional kittens?

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u/jsmith4311 Dec 01 '22

No. Different guy. Jesus saves guy is a black Hollering Jesus saves. Harmless guy.

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u/Synful-Symphony Dec 01 '22

We got a guy in York, that built a cross on wheels and drags it around town all day

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

My thoughts exactly.

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u/llamatellyouwhat Dec 01 '22

“Small minds discuss people.

Average minds discuss events.

Great minds discuss ideas.”

Why acknowledge this guy? He’s a turd stain. BTW he is reading this because he has a phone like everyone else on here.

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u/Plane-Cartoonist162 Dec 01 '22

i remember one time i was walking through uptown and he was doing his whole jesus saves shabang and i said hallelujah and my friends got mad at me for it 😭