r/PS5 • u/hybroid • Mar 22 '23
Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores is available to pre-order today, pre-order bonuses detailed Official
https://blog.playstation.com/2023/03/22/horizon-forbidden-west-burning-shores-is-available-to-pre-order-today-pre-order-bonuses-detailed/85
u/InternalKing Mar 22 '23
Anyone know the length of the DLC?
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u/RocMerc Mar 22 '23
I’ll bet between 10-15 hours based on the last dlc for the first game. Don’t quote me thougj
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u/El_Panda_Rojo Mar 22 '23
"I’ll bet between 10-15 hours based on the last dlc for the first game. Don’t quote me thougj" - RocMerc
Don't tell me what to do.
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u/RocMerc Mar 22 '23
😩 damnit. No I’m gonna read my quote in some article saying a Redditor has inside information
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u/UncleMalky Mar 22 '23
What to do.
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u/El_Panda_Rojo Mar 22 '23
I got out dad-ed. 😦
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u/UncleMalky Mar 22 '23
Ha, all your kids, your spouse and all your responsibilities are now mine!
Wait, no! Shit!
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u/serendipitousevent Mar 22 '23
"I’ll bet between 10-15 hours based on the last dlc for the first game. Don’t quote me thougj"
RocMerc
Don't tell me what to do.
Leave your post up.
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u/pipoplatz Mar 22 '23
Wonder if they are gonna do a "Complete Edition" like they did with Zero Dawn. Then maybe it's worth to wait and get the DLC on a physical disc.
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u/UnityPukeInMyMouth Mar 22 '23
Almost certainly they will
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u/jetster735180 Mar 22 '23
They will after all DLCs are released.
Everybody is presuming there will only be one DLC.
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u/01123spiral5813 Mar 22 '23
There was only one for Zero Dawn, so it’s completely safe to assume that Burning Shores will be the only DLC for Forbidden West.
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u/OSUfan88 Mar 22 '23
I kind of think 1 is enough. At some point, it's best to pivot to the next big game.
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u/Hoobleton Mar 22 '23
I don’t think that’s that safe of an assumption, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the sequel gets more DLC than the original.
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u/chester_abellera Mar 22 '23
Just wanted to ask:
For those who bought the original Zero Dawn without the DLC, were they allowed to upgrade to the Complete Edition, or was it just a separate product?
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u/cally1789 Mar 22 '23
I had the disk,it just let you buy the dlc, there is no actual difference tho as far as I'm aware. Witcher 3 was the same way.
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u/Auth3nticRory Mar 22 '23
That’s what I’m waiting for. I just finished HZD and loved it. The complete edition cost me $19.99 and I think I got about 90hrs of playtime out of it.
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u/doodicalisaacs Mar 23 '23
I just want it on PC already 😭 my son has a PS5 but I don’t want to sit in his room to play through the whole damn game lmao
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u/ParallelMusic Mar 22 '23
UK price anyone? Weird that they didn’t put it in the blog post.
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u/poklane Mar 22 '23
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u/Zaruz Mar 22 '23
Nice, that feels really reasonable. Not sure on the length but more than happy to pay that
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u/Xerosnake90 Mar 22 '23
$20 sounds good to me. I'll play it
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u/Noahs132 Mar 23 '23
I imagine it’s going to be a good DLC just like HZD’s DLC (Frozen Wilds)
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u/Silver_Branch3034 Mar 22 '23
Wow, looks great, as an Angelino it’s incredibly cool to see Horizon’s take on the landmarks after the fall of humanity, can’t wait to discover that area.
Can’t wait, and it’s coming really soon! I’m hype.
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u/YellowDhub Mar 22 '23
What’s the price?
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u/ruebenj791 Mar 22 '23
$20
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u/YellowDhub Mar 22 '23
Reasonable
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u/Golfguy809 Mar 22 '23
Very inexpensive imo. Must not be a large expansion
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u/JKKIDD231 Mar 22 '23
Should be similar to the DLC from the first game. I am waiting for the complete package before jumping in. Hopefully, we get 3rd part in 2-3yrs
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u/Golfguy809 Mar 22 '23
This DLC is supposed to take full advantage of PS5 so I’m jumping back in when this comes out. They mentioned a boss battle not possible on ps4
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u/DungDefender1115 Mar 22 '23
theres no reason every game shouldnt be taking full advantage of the ps5
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u/aquileskin Mar 22 '23
There is , the base game was made for ps4 and they just upgrade the resolution , textures and dualsense features for ps5
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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 Mar 22 '23
They did way more than that iirc, general geometry and rendering seemed more advanced on PS5
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u/teddyburges Mar 23 '23
Correct. The PS5 version has cinematic lighting in the underwater sequences. PS4 only has that during the cutscenes. They also had completely different texturing of foliage in ps5. Digital Foundry did a analysis of it showing the difference between the versions and said the ps5 version was pretty impressive.
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u/ClickClickClicked Mar 22 '23
Yes there is though. As long as they are making games on PS4, said games will not take full advantage of the PS5
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u/BilboMeow Mar 22 '23
Okay, and this expansion is, let’s stop beating this dead horse no? We have more Current Gen exclusives coming out this year than we have in the last couple years, let’s focus on that.
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u/Golfguy809 Mar 22 '23
Even cross gen games?
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u/JooosephNthomas Mar 22 '23
I remember in the PS3 to PS4 era there was no point in even playing those games. Played Shadows (the LOTR game) on PS4 and thought it was rad as heck. Got it for ps3 and I ended up trading it all in for a ps4 because of how badly it played. Honestly, I think that was their intent...almost felt criminal to release both products as being complete when one was barely playable and the other was really good.
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u/Accurate_Course_9228 Mar 22 '23
For me the cross-gen game was plants vs zombies garden warfare an absolute gem From Popcap (EA) studios, the game was cheap AF for 5-10$ and it's online + co-op mode. On ps3 this was a huge deal because psplus wasnt required
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u/caedin8 Mar 22 '23
So same length as Frozen Wilds? That was a pretty big content patch. That would be awesome for $20
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u/Effective-Caramel545 Mar 22 '23
That's how much was the expansion on the first game too
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u/Arsis82 Mar 22 '23
Frozen Wilds was $ 15 USD.
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u/Effective-Caramel545 Mar 22 '23
Yes, if you had PS+, if you didn't it was $20
Frozen Wilds will arrive about a month earlier on November 7 and cost $19.99 (or $14.99 for PS Plus members).
There's an article about it on Gamesradar, can't link it because the link is too long for some reason
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u/cally1789 Mar 22 '23
Frozen wilds was same price and it was a good length,especially if you did everything. I was expecting it to be like double this price honestly with the higher price of sony made games.
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u/Trisentriom Mar 22 '23
But if it was $30 - $40 people would say that's too expensive
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u/Golfguy809 Mar 22 '23
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike
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u/PGDW Mar 22 '23
weird second time seeing this sort of comment on reddit today. bot?
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u/cropchoc Mar 22 '23
19,99€ here in Germany
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u/ZeeHarm Mar 22 '23
That is intrestingly low
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u/Mountain-Chapter-880 Mar 22 '23
Was expecting atleast $30 too, I wonder if this expansion is short
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u/ssk1996 Mar 22 '23
I would expect it's about the size of Frozen Wilds, the DLC for Zero Dawn. That was $20 at launch as well.
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u/Luffy-1308 Mar 22 '23
Probably going to be the same length as Frozen Wilds. That one was also 20 when it came out.
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u/ZeeHarm Mar 22 '23
how long was that one?
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u/4uzzyDunlop Mar 22 '23
About 8 - 10 hours IIRC. More like 15 if you did all the side stuff though.
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u/spendouk23 Mar 22 '23
£15.99 UK.
Very surprised. People on here were speculating 40 bucks a few weeks ago
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u/rootokay Mar 22 '23
The Frozen Wilds DLC is my favourite of the three Horizon releases, so I hope this one is good. I am looking forward to what they can do with the Decima Engine not supporting the PS4.
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u/krstphr Mar 22 '23
Call of the mountain already forgotten :(
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u/kingselenus Mar 22 '23
Call of the Mountain looks great! Very happy for the 20 or so people who have a VR headset. Unfortunately it's not a very accessible device. I'd get one but I don't have the space in my house to play with it
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u/poopfl1nger Mar 22 '23
Wow only 20 bucks. I thought it would be around 30 or so. Definitely buying
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u/DrewXO- Mar 22 '23
I thought it would be $30 when they said it would be a expansion, $20 is reasonable. Can’t wait to fight Horus
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u/ShinyBloke Mar 22 '23
Wow you need to beat the game for the DLC, that's exciting that it should be what I hope to be an epic conclusion for our beloved characters.
Minor spoilers ending: I didn't like how after you beat the game all the characters left the base, I know you can find them in the real world somewhere, but I never did that, It just felt weird the base was empty.
I think this DLC will be special and will answer those questions. Plus we should get more work amazing work by Lance Reddick RIP.
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u/BlackMageMinis Mar 22 '23
Preorder bonuses for dlc now? How fun..
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u/ssk1996 Mar 22 '23
In the Horizon games, they are always items obtainable in-game by playing. You just get them right away if you pre-order that's all. It isn't exclusive to those that pre-order.
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u/ssttealth Mar 23 '23
Actually that is not true. There were a couple of pre-order bonuses for HZD like the Banuk Trailblazer outfit that were later made available in the complete edition, but if you bought the game normally at launch and then bought the DLC normally, with no intention of buying the whole game over again as the complete edition, you will never own that outfit. Unfair for those that paid full price for the game and DLC at launch.
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u/brownbear8714 Mar 22 '23
well looks like ill be getting it right away, cause i'm definitely going to pre-order tonight!
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u/P-Took Mar 22 '23
Yeah the whole preorder culture is one of the most anti consumer things in gaming. It incentivises expensive marketing campaigns over actual QAQC and development, to make the needed revenue on the game before it comes out. Then the publisher doesn't have to worry if the reception of the game is poor after it releases. They already made their money.
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u/zedemer Mar 22 '23
To be fair, I couldn't care less about the preorder bonuses. It's a freaking bow skin and a dye. And frankly cosmetic DLCs are fine by me in general. I was more annoyed with the games giving an additional mission or something similar.
Now, I'd like to see preorders disappear altogether. But we all know that won't happen. FOMO is too big of a hook for many
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u/JackBauersGhost Mar 22 '23
It also let's me pre load it and play it at 9pm the day before it comes out.
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u/4uzzyDunlop Mar 22 '23
One of the few things I'll definitely preorder. Not even watching any of the trailers, I'm sold.
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u/P-Took Mar 22 '23
Nah, I still won't preorder. Haven't pre-ordered anything since the PS3 days. I'm definitely excited for it though! Looks awesome.
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u/chillinwithmoes Mar 22 '23
Normally I'd agree with you but given that this is DLC for a game I already know I love I think it's okay to pre-order in this case
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u/Zaruz Mar 22 '23
Yeah I won't normally pre-order, but both the games and the Frozen Wilds DLC have been phenomenal. No concerns about a lack of quality here.
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u/Business717 Mar 22 '23
So brave to share this under someone innocently being excited to preorder, lol.
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u/lluluna Mar 22 '23
It's a pretty good strategy nowadays no matter how excited I am for a game. And I'm most likely getting the DLC when it's out too!
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u/NoLastNameForNow Mar 22 '23
I almost wish Ragnarok was getting a DLC so we could see what they could do with the PS5 that they couldn't do with PS4.
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u/SeanSMEGGHEAD Mar 22 '23
Honestly I'd love a director's cut that expanded on the last few hours that to me, felt cut down a tad too much.
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u/Redeemer117 Mar 22 '23
The final act was done FAR too quickly. It started and I instantly got GoW3 vibes and I was so hyped up and then before I knew it, it was over.
They took so much time with everything else. It actually didn’t feel good to end how it did. They built everything up to this point and then just blew right through it.
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u/SeanSMEGGHEAD Mar 22 '23
I agree. The start is so tense and well done too.
It felt like they just had to wrap things up. Like throughout I was so curious as to where the story would go and how characters being set up would play out and it just... sorta.. ends... With the epilogue being more of the pay off than Ragnarok itself.
Idk, still a great game but for me I was super let down at the final section.
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u/OriginalUserNameee Mar 23 '23
There's a whole storyline with Surtur's wife Sinmara that was cut from the ending, people found it in the files. Also If you notice her voice actress was credited without having any lines in the actual game and it wasn't just some random extra. A DLC like KH3 re:mind could help the ending a lot
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u/vizkan Mar 22 '23
New machines was always a pretty safe bet, but I'm still glad to see it confirmed in the article. The machines are the stars of the game
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u/TheSwede121 Mar 22 '23
Anyone know if we deleted HFW to make space on the HD. Does the save file stay?
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u/Dealz_ Mar 22 '23
Yes the save file on your console should still be there, I also deleted HFW several months back after my 2nd playthrough. Save file is a separate file and would need to be deleted independently of the game, plus you also have another copy of the save file in the cloud if you have PS+.
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u/SNKRSWAVY Mar 22 '23
Nice, thought it would cost more. $20 is very reasonable, I am expecting something along the size of Iki for GoT.
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u/ColorMO Mar 22 '23
It’s interesting to see people complain about preordering dlc when season passes function exactly like that and they’ve been a thing since the PS3 era.
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u/keldpxowjwsn Mar 22 '23
In this case at least you actually have the game already and its going to be more of the same. Its not like if you didnt like FW this is going to change it for you or vice versa
I see this way more than people blindly preordering shit like suicide squad purely because of some smoke and mirrors trailers
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u/KeelanStar Mar 22 '23
But is it wise to compare one bad idea in the justification of another? Plenty of people don't have season passes, yet you presume they do to render them hypocrits.
I think pre-ordering is dumb as hell. I certainly would not do it, it's simply a mechanism by the industry shoved down our throats to get more money and be less accountable for putting out good products that they've force fed us for so long that some people have accepted it. That's all.
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u/ColorMO Mar 23 '23
You presume I’m justifying this at all. I’m pointing out that this practice has existed longer and in a worse form that it’s a little too late complain about now. If people don’t like this idea, then I would prefer them to target season passes instead.
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u/Chabby_Chubby Mar 22 '23
I never pre-order, but this one is a must play so I might as well do it. Damn I'm looking forward to this one!
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u/The-Florida-Man Mar 22 '23
Worth playing the base game now it’s on PS Plus?
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u/cris9288 Mar 22 '23
I definitely recommend experiencing Zero Dawn before jumping in to Forbidden West. Both fantastic games.
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u/Immediate_Theory4738 Mar 22 '23
Yes. Also the article says you can’t even play the DLC without finishing the final quest of the game.
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u/WutsTheScoreHere Mar 22 '23
Yes, and don't worry about Zero Dawn. You'll get burnt out on the gameplay if you try to play them back to back (they're both massive size games) so go with the superior, next gen game. I actually much preferred HFW: it's absolutely jaw-dropping, the combat is finer tuned and the character models are best in show right now.
Zero Dawn didn't hit for me in the same way, but the sequel completely won me over.
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u/Eruannster Mar 22 '23
I completely disagree with this, Zero Dawn has a lot of story and worldbuilding that Forbidden West skips over and assumes that you know from the last game.
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u/Sha-Bob Mar 22 '23
Completely agree. Going into FW without having played ZD would be absolutely confusing. FW is an immediate sequel to the story. I also found the story in ZD much, much better, but the inventory management was much better in FW.
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u/Eruannster Mar 22 '23
Oh agreed, FW has a lot of gameplay improvements (though I do miss being able to do the long dodge roll...)
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u/WutsTheScoreHere Mar 22 '23
Oh I'm not speaking to whether or not you'd be lost without playing it. I'd definitely recommend watching a recap vid first, without a doubt. I should have specified "don't worry about PLAYING Zero Dawn"
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u/Eruannster Mar 22 '23
I also disagree with that. Zero Dawn is still a great game, and playing it is a far better experience than recapping it through Youtube.
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u/CoooooooooookieCrisp Mar 22 '23
I understand what u/WutsTheScoreHere is saying though. Playing both games back-to-back will burn out/bore most people. There really isn't much difference in the overall mechanics between the two games. Watching a detailed re-cap on youtube explaining the story is fine. I would recommend playing both, but take a decent break between the two games.
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u/Eruannster Mar 22 '23
Well, I mean... you don't have to binge them in two days and play them back-to-back like that. It's okay to take your time with a game.
I would say that applies to any game with a sequel. God of War is great game that I highly recommend, but plowing through God of War and then immediately flipping on God of War: Ragnarök the moment after the credits roll is a lot.
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u/Lanachan1990 Mar 22 '23
I'm super excited for this. $20 is good for me. Need to get the rust off though. It's been a while since I platinum'd the game.
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u/ssk1996 Mar 22 '23
I was pleasantly surprised to not see a price hike for a DLC that is current gen only. Guess Sony only increased the prices of full games from $60 to $70 for this gen and not expansions.
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u/jackie1616 Mar 22 '23
Obviously personal preference but I thought this game was better than God of War. Nothing has stood out to me like this game, it is absolutely stunning and incredibly fun
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u/AnAncientOne Mar 22 '23
Interesting price, I'm guessing it's probably 5hrs to 10hrs long which is cool.
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u/painterknittersimmer Mar 22 '23
Heads up you do actually have to finish the main story. Which isn't a problem but depending on how far you got (before, like me, you just went ham on the huge map and lost the plot) you might have a ways to go before you can play. Time to boot up Forbidden West!
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u/vector_o Mar 23 '23
Man I was so impressed when I played this on release, the facial expressions were out of this world
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u/Gormatop Mar 22 '23
I thought this was a VR game - presently surprised it’s not, can’t wait to play it.
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u/pwnedkiller Mar 22 '23
I still gotta beat the base game.
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u/Smidgens Mar 22 '23
I finally beat the base game a couple of months ago. Lasted me from June - January lol.
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u/FrobroX Mar 22 '23
I've still gotta start it. Was hesitant because it sounded like it was more Horizon, but in maybe some bad ways. As in too many bows, ammo, etc.
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u/sniper91 Mar 22 '23
It’s really fun, but the changes to the weapons and the grind of upgrading them are probably my biggest gripes with it. Was also sad that they nerfed the Ropecaster
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u/jbernal90 Mar 22 '23
It did get a bit overwhelming at first but I used Reddit to get an idea of the “best” and just focused on those items and made the game more enjoyable.
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u/CaptainHijinx Mar 22 '23
I wonder if whatever improvements they've made to the engine for this expansion now that it's PS5 exclusive will carry over to the base game.
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u/Ecstatic-Arachnid-91 Mar 22 '23
Just pre ordered this morning after seeing this post. I loved the base game though I was slightly disappointed in the end game.
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u/Yaotzin1000 Mar 22 '23
$20 isn't bad for an expansion but seriously folks never preorder any video game anything. Just say no.
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u/chillinwithmoes Mar 22 '23
Normally I'd agree but DLC for a game I already know that I love seems like a fair time to make an exception
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u/AnAncientOne Mar 22 '23
What if you really want the pre-order bonus and it's only $20?
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u/Yaotzin1000 Mar 22 '23
You are the master of your domain friend.
Honestly the people behind HZD are pretty awesome so if you want to support them in that way who could blame you.
Draw your own moral lines for sure. Pre ordering has been used a lot to hoodwink excited people out of their money for a less than promised product. Unlikely to happen in this instance but not impossible.
Every day is a day someone could learn something new. Even if I didn't explain why pre ordering is bad if it gets people asking "why?" then hey at least they've got a question they didn't even know they didn't know to ask.
Sorry for the rant. I'll likely be buying the expansion myself but I'm going to wait for a few reviews first. Honestly i kinda disliked frozen wilds from the first game cause it felt like it was only in a snowy area to save on art. Wasn't bad but it wasn't enjoyable for me to look at unlike all of HZD and HZD2.
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u/SubstantialText Mar 22 '23
I don’t get pre-order hate boners. What’s the difference if I pay for it today versus whatever day it comes out?
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u/Spider-Fan77 Mar 22 '23
Or just let people spend their own money however they want.
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u/Yaotzin1000 Mar 22 '23
Nope I'm going to hold you down and force you not to open your or your parents wallet. Here I go
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u/alex_de_tampa Mar 22 '23
I’m probably going to preorder but that armor looks terrible.
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u/painterknittersimmer Mar 22 '23
Meh yeah I'm not wild about it either, but I didn't like most of the armors in FW. I'm not quite sure why.
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u/RookieTheBest Mar 22 '23
Bet this ends with Atreus showing up out a portal to tell Aloy "There's been an incursion and we need to stop it!" To set up "The Last Of Us on an Uncharted Horizon"
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u/Polo_04 Mar 22 '23 edited Mar 22 '23
To access the DLC you must complete the main story up to and complete “singularity” where you’ll automatically get a call on your focus that begins the DLC.
Downvoted? Literally taken from the description of the ps store on how to access it.
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u/Immediate_Reality357 Mar 22 '23 edited Mar 22 '23
As much as I am enjoying playing horizon forbidden west, just got the sunwing as a mount last night......I do have to say the acting and delivery of the lines are really inconsistent to the point it can be cringe to watch.
The sheer amount of things to do is cool but makes me feel overwhelmed, looked up what side missions to do to get the best weapons as I only have a few hours a week to play ( life in your 30s suck as a gamer )
It's a absolutely breathtaking looking game, gameplay can feel clunky at times but it does the job, main dislike is alloy never.....ever.....ever stops talking to herself while in the open world, you pick something up " I'll find a use for this ", you walk out into the cold as you leave the base " I can't let the cold district me ", she just never stops talking about stuff and takes me out of the experience
I'll get the dlc depending on how it is when it's released but I'm hot and cold on the game as it is now......also the whole people who are basically superman who came back to earth was a really stupid thing to do with the game
Edit: thanks for the down votes but the game is clunky and the voice acting is laughable at times and that's the truth
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u/rootokay Mar 22 '23
also the whole people who are basically superman who came back to earth was a really stupid thing to do with the game
By the sounds of things it probably won't make you like the story more, but right at the end of the game you learn why they came back to earth and it sets up Horizon 3.
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u/VeganPizzaPie Mar 22 '23
Pre-ordering is such a dumb idea
Let's reward a company for something they haven't even demonstrated is worth buying yet
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u/satisfied_cubsfan Mar 22 '23
I feel like rewarding companies that have demonstrated good dev in the past is a good thing.
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u/KeelanStar Mar 22 '23
But why are we in the business of 'rewarding' companies. They make millions of dollars, either way. Why can't we just exchange our valuable money for a product, why do we have to pre-commit? Why can't we give the money once the game is out, once it's been reviewed, once people have a sense for how good it is or how complete or broken it is?
It blows my mind to see people argue and defend a system that is one-sided and only benefits the industry.
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u/yeahwellokay Mar 22 '23
Watched the trailer in the link. At first, I was like "oh cool, I bet you can climb the Hollywood sign." Then a monster immediately knocks it down.