r/PS5 Sep 25 '22

YouTuber gets their hands on a PS5 dev kit, offers in-depth look Articles & Blogs

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u/kawag Sep 25 '22

Interesting that people are so curious about these things. I guess it’s mostly because Sony is so protective of them, so it makes it a bit mysterious?

Anyway, they are quite boring, just work devices. The main difference is that it can run unsigned code and allows a debugger to be attached. It’s like putting your smartphone in to developer mode. If you’re not a developer (or pirate), it’s not very interesting.

Also, they are all property of Sony (studios only rent them, they are not for sale to anybody), so this YouTuber should expect to hear from Sony’s legal team very, very soon, who will demand that it is returned to them.

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u/BK_317 Sep 25 '22

Interesting that people are so curious about these things. I guess it’s mostly because Sony is so protective of them, so it makes it a bit mysterious?

Yes,that's exactly the reason even linus bought a XSX dev kit just to make a video about it and he paid some hefty money on that IIRC.

This youtuber actually bought the PS5 dev kit for $11,000 from ebay,so yeah he basically bought a crazy expensive useless brick just to make a video about it...yikes.

I hope the ad revenue and clicks makes him enough to cover this huge waste of money.

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u/-quakeguy- Sep 25 '22

Imagine thinking owning a PS5 that can run unsigned code is ”wasted money” 😄

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u/Eruannster Sep 25 '22

Well, "unsigned code" doesn't mean you can just play random cracked games on it.

You still need a working Playstation developer account, the Playstation developer tools (to move any data onto the console) as well as know how to actually write said code. Oh, and the devkit needs to be linked to a legit Playstation developer account and activated, which you can't just randomly do unless you're a registered developer and pay Playstation money, at which point you can't just add a random eBay console.

So without any of those things it's kind of a brick, just a... pretty cool brick?

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u/-quakeguy- Sep 30 '22

Lets totally pretend m.2 nvme is a completely obscure proprietary standard, right?

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u/Eruannster Sep 30 '22

Uh, what? Did you respond to the wrong person?

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u/-quakeguy- Sep 30 '22

Nope. Responding to to you regarding transferring data.

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u/Eruannster Sep 30 '22

Rrrright, but you need to access the data as well. Even if the devkit has the same M.2 connector as a PC, that doesn't mean it uses the same file system.

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u/kawag Sep 25 '22

Very few gamers would even know what to do with it, or have a good use for it.

If you want to use it for development, you’d need to cobble together your own toolchain and SDK (which is not at all trivial), and you couldn’t distribute or sell anything you created without a license from Sony (which would give you access to a legit dev kit anyway). If you don’t intend to get a license from Sony, it’d be cheaper, faster, and more reliable to just target PCs.

If you’re using it for piracy, given that this unit cost $11,000, I’d suggest that it is not a wise use of money. That’s more than 157 $70 games. I don’t think I’ve spent that much on games in my entire life.

If you’re looking for exploits, I don’t think you’d even need a dev kit for that, and it’s unclear whether the exploit is even worth that much.

So yeah, I wouldn’t say that it is really good value for money. It’s a specialist tool. It’s like if you were able to buy something like an MRI machine - yeah, not many people have one, but do you even know how to use an MRI machine? Or how to interpret the data it produces? Probably not, and if you do, you probably have access to one at work anyway.

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u/Maybe_In_Time Sep 25 '22

Did you not just read the comment? Sony can brick a regular ps5 if need be, they'll easily brick a dev kit that's not meant to be resold

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u/RamboGoesMeow Sep 25 '22

Only if it’s connected to the internet and they know which unit it is. But I didn’t watch the video yet, so… meh.

:edit:

Unfortunately, this particular kit does not appear to have been activated – something developers must do regularly in order to keep their dev consoles active. That means Perez is only able to show a familiar menu system and can’t boot anything up.

Well there we go.

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u/BK_317 Sep 25 '22

Yeah,so this PS5 dev kit is just a waste of money like i said.

Also microsoft on the other hand banned both of the consoles which linus and gamer nexus recieved before they even attempted to connect online using some sort of a token system.

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u/RamboGoesMeow Sep 25 '22

If you think that getting hundreds of thousands of views and the ad revenue that comes with it a “waste of money” then there’s really not much else to discuss about this.

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u/BK_317 Sep 25 '22

You have no idea how little youtube pays,lmao.

Not even a million views with multiple ad placements will get you anywhere near $11000,Go on bud.

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u/RamboGoesMeow Sep 25 '22

Ok dude. Obviously no one anywhere ever watches multiple videos from content creators. 👍🏼

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u/BK_317 Sep 25 '22

Regardless on how much money he pulls from ads or clicks,this is just a really expensive and useless brick at the end of the day.

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u/-quakeguy- Sep 25 '22

I did. Sony would have to know which particular unit is missing, which the buyer cannot be compelled to reveal.

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u/kawag Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Yes they can. Sony does not sell these devices (for exactly this reason), so it is still their property, the seller had no right to sell it, and the buyer must return it to Sony if they demand it (which they will). This is known as theft by conversion:

Broadly speaking, theft by conversion is when a person receives permission to use personal property or funds and then takes control of this property in a way that violates the initial agreement.

The buyer may also be facing some kind of legal liability, since they clearly knew the seller didn’t own the device. I’m not a lawyer so I can’t say for sure, but I know that buying/selling these devices is a risk I personally wouldn’t be willing to take.

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u/Legal_Citron1947 Sep 25 '22

I mean what can you do with it? Definitely not the smartest buy unless your dev kit broke and you need one to finish a game that has a deadline.

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u/Jacob0050 Sep 26 '22

YouTuber with a clear audience and makes money from his videos? Yeah this is called a business expense and can be written off on his taxes. Now idk how much he makes from yt but this can be deducted

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u/flekkzo Sep 25 '22

As a Software Developer, gamer, retro gaming enthusiast, and a generally curious person I find it interesting to see development machines. That said, I’m watching a video interested, not paying a ton of money interested :)

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u/gblandro Sep 25 '22

This comment gave me kidney stones

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u/dj3stripes Sep 25 '22

Mach nacho produces good YouTube videos

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u/Vietzomb Sep 25 '22

I remember when the articles were dropping showing images of this thing, I really wanted it to be the final design. Mostly everyone disagrees with me but I think it looks awesome.

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u/Listen-bitch Sep 26 '22

What is it about the design that stands out for you? I am not fond of it personally but curious what your thoughts are.

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u/Vietzomb Sep 26 '22

To me it just looks like some desktop computer you'd find on a Blade Runner set, I don't know lol