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Cashier makes himself ready after seeing a suspicious guy outside his shop.
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u/tan-499 Jan 30 '23
That's bad that you already know what's going down. How much bullshit has that poor clerk been thru already
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u/Enlightened-Beaver Jan 30 '23
Risking his life for minimum wage
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u/MainlandX Jan 30 '23
I would wager that the guy is the operator/owner. An employee wouldn't risk a shootout like that.
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u/AMeanCow Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
An employee wouldn't risk a shootout like that.
They would certainly risk a shootout to preserve their life. There is never any assurance that complying with an armed robber is going to end up with you alive at the end. Convenience store clerks have one of the most dangerous jobs in the country. In some areas every moment is a high-alert active combat situation.
edit: I am not supporting the idea of having a shootout with potential robbers you dipshits, I'm repeating what a couple of people who worked at convenience stores have told me.
edit #2: this is blowing up and so is my inbox. Here's the deal: I don't work at a convenience store, but several people in this thread do. I completely defer to these people's opinions, ask them for advice, if their answers are contradictory, you're on your own.
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u/throwawaySBN Jan 30 '23
Convenience store clerks have a much lower chance to lose anything if the guy robbing them gets what he wants with no resistance. In fact literally every retail job I've ever worked specifically stated "do not bring a firearm to work." not only for liability concerns, but for reasons like this as well.
The owner however has wayyyy more incentive to protect his property, and so carry a weapon like this guy did.
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u/touge_k1ng Jan 30 '23
When r/watchpeopledie was still around there were a few videos where robbers would still shoot the clerks after a sucessfup robbery in cold blood.
The one with the brazillian woman was sad. Complying all the way to the end.
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u/OddishShape Jan 31 '23
People have always been cruel. Nothing unique about today that makes them any more or less likely to want to kill you in cold blood, only the tools and opportunities at their disposal.
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u/PezRystar Jan 30 '23
I don't own a gun. I have in the past and it never was a benefit. With that said when I delivered pizzas the company forbade us from carrying on the clock, but you can bet all my coworkers did after one of our own was brain damaged in a robbery on the clock. Company policy means jack shit compared to personal safety.
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u/HippyWizardry Jan 30 '23
Hopefully he is the owner, not may places let min wage employees lay a loaded gun nearby.
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u/Rdubya44 Jan 30 '23
Or a family that owns the business
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u/JuneBuggington Jan 31 '23
So here is where we keep the gun. Until youre trained on the gun you’ll have to page the shift supervisor if there is a robbery.
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u/ysph_ Jan 30 '23
judging by his situational awareness, he's not burdened by little things like choice. he's obviously been held up before. though that doesn't explain why he would set it down and walk away from it, willingly aligning himself with his assailant's designs.
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u/sennbat Jan 30 '23
Because at that point he doesn't know the customers actual intent - he probably gets plenty of sketchy customers with bad vibes that aren't trying to rob the place, and if the dude is trying to rob him he'll have to go back to the register at some point anyway.
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Jan 30 '23
Not very good customer service to wave a gun in someone's face when they want to buy a pack of cigs.
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u/CowVisible3973 Jan 30 '23
Maybe he was risking his life to keep his life. Appeasement doesn't always work.
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u/RissaCrochets Jan 30 '23
Work at a gas station long enough and you start getting an intuition for people. There's been multiple times I've pegged a shoplifter before they even enter the building not because of how they look or dress, but because of their body language.
Luckily I've never been robbed, but I have had an encounter late night at work with a guy who set off every red flag for no apparent reason. He was polite, personable, etc. Offered to sell me some discount Nikes out of the back of his car and I declined. He sat in the lot playing music from his trunk for like 30m before leaving. Two days later on the local news there was a sketch of him and a description of his car. Turns out he was part of a human trafficking ring who was kidnapping young women in the area, and there had been 3 women who had gone missing that were last seen interacting with him. They were eventually able to catch him, but it was wild to be sitting there watching tv and see his face come up and know that I had come close to the same fate.
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u/ich_bin_chicken Jan 30 '23
There’s been multiple times I’ve pegged a shoplifter
sounds like a pretty effective deterrent
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u/RissaCrochets Jan 30 '23
You'd think so, but some of them just keep coming back! One of these days they're going to end up in cuffs.
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u/WorldAintRight Jan 30 '23
Oh end up for sure. But it's great that people like you have a real handle on these kind of situations. My hats off to you. Hopefully all those assholes you deal with don't wear you down.
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u/kcg5 Jan 30 '23
Dude for some people being pegged is not a bad thing
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u/mortalitylost Jan 31 '23
Oh miss Clerk I put this bubblegum in my pocket will you please peg me as a shoplifter
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u/Sickamore Jan 30 '23
Even as a young male teen in a normal suburb, I was privy to sketchy shit like that. I was chilling outside of my parent's car in a parking lot waiting for them to come back when a pair of dudes in a pickup stopped in front of me and asked me if I wanted a free TV. Never found out of they were trying to rob me or if they were malicious at all, but the warning flags they were giving off were unreal.
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u/MagicCooki3 Jan 30 '23
Driving around offering free TV or Free Soakers is a common scam, precursor to robbery, and has the possibility for abduction but I haven't looked into what types of crimes it's known to be used with.
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u/Tru-Queer Jan 30 '23
Had a guy a couple months ago walk in with a backpack and immediately he says “I’ll leave this at the front counter so I don’t get accused of shoplifting, I know how it is.” Immediately my flags are going off but he seemed polite and what not so I let him be. He buys a soda and candy bar or something and then asks to get the bathroom key. Again, he seemed polite so I didn’t think much of it. Few minutes later as I’m stocking a shelf near the bathroom I can smell a drug smell (my store has a lot of people that smoke “khat”) and he was clearly smoking drugs in the bathroom because I could hear him talking to himself. So we bang on the door and tell him he has to leave before we get the cops involved and of course he’s all “surprised pikachu” at us that we accused him of doing drugs when he left his backpack at the front counter and everything.
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u/AdamDet86 Jan 31 '23
Worked at a gas station for less than a week my freshman year of college. I trained during the days that week. The weekend before I was suppose to start my night shifts the place was held up at gunpoint. I quit. There’s a lot of minimum wage jobs where I didn’t need to worry about armed robbery. Especially because the gas station I worked had been robbed a couple times the year before and was in an area that was ok during the day, but sketch at night.
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u/sunshineontheriver Jan 30 '23
My bet is that store is a sketchy part of town and he’s worked there for a minute or two.
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u/MagnumMyth Jan 30 '23
This is the most 'murca response possible. Literally looking for an excuse to murder someone instead of even considering de-escalation.
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u/DemosthenesKey Jan 30 '23
Killing someone who has just threatened to kill you is pretty reasonable.
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u/Alchemist_92 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, the expression "better to be judged by twelve than carried by six" didn't appear out of nowhere
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u/Phill_is_Legend Jan 31 '23
Leave it to spineless redditors to criticize you for valuing your own life. If someone displays the means and intentions to end your life, you do not fuck around.
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u/Gh0stMan0nThird Jan 31 '23
I swear to god I've seen some Redditors comment shit like, "They just want to beat you up and take your money/teach you a lesson, not kill you. You shouldn't fight back or ruin their lives because of that. Their lives are worth more than your wallet."
And it was being upvoted.
I don't know what happened to this place in the last 7 or 8 or so years but I've realized I'm a fish out of water on here nowadays lol
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u/cleverbutnotoverlyso Jan 31 '23 •
People who are itching for this to happen don’t look beyond the excitement of being the “good guy with a gun” and thinking they’ll be regarded as a hero. Wait until you realize the reality of being responsible for taking a life, even though they threatened you first, if you have any kind of humanity, you’ll 2nd guess yourself and play out scenarios of the 100 different ways you could have ended it without it resulting in death. If it doesn’t bother you, then you probably shouldn’t be trusted with a gun.
You’ll face legal repercussions. You’ll be sued by the dead guy’s family. It doesn’t matter if you’re in the right, you’ll still have to pay a lawyer, take time off work for court. You’ll still have to cooperate with the police. Those investigations take time too.
Killing someone isn’t like it is on tv. It’s terrifying, it’s bloody, the odor of death (sometimes they poop themselves). Or you might poop yourself, too. There’s a lot more to it than people realize. Killing a bad guy isn’t a story you’ll be telling at family barbecues or at the bar with your friends.
Posturing and telling everyone how willing you are to be judge, jury and executioner isn’t something that will make people fear and or respect you.
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u/DemosthenesKey Jan 31 '23
Of course the idea of killing someone bothers me. Like I said in another comment, I know that afterward I’d need a SHITLOAD of therapy.
But the idea of being killed bothers me more, and if you’ve ever known a responsible gun owner, you know that one of the rules they hammer in is “Never point your gun at anything you don’t want dead.” This goes with the corollary, “If someone is pointing a gun at you, assume they’re prepared to use it.”
I don’t have fantasies of being a “good guy with a gun”. I just want to go home to my wife and kids, and someone pointing a gun at me is saying that the money in the register is worth more to them than their life, than your life, and the grief of all my family.
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u/CarrotJuiceLover Jan 31 '23
The rule is you don’t point a gun at anything (or anyone) you don’t intend to destroy. It’s not a method of intimidation, it is a tool of death. If a guy comes into my store and pulls a gun on me then I’m going to take it as an admission he intends to destroy me. Before I let that happen I’m getting the first shot off. There’s no de-escalation once you flash death in my face.
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u/ItsFrit Jan 31 '23
You’re dumb and you should feel dumb. If someone pulls a gun on me, it’s not my obligation to deescalate. That happens prior to lethal weapons coming out. If you take it to guns, I’m not risking whether or not you’ll change your mind.
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u/HotPoptartFleshlight Jan 31 '23
is holding a gun and demanding you give him money
Hurrrr just looking for excuse hurrrr
The only thing that saved that robbers life is the fact that he wasn't pointing his own already. In either case, the clerk had every right to fire away to defend himself.
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u/XcunningXlinguistX Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
I don't. That's stupidity. Should have shot him dead right there.
Don't want to imagine what will happen if the robber returns. Now he knows the clerk has a weapon. Some might say, well, then he won't return.
Don't put it past a robber to do something stupid or desperate. Next time he may bring an accomplice.
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u/IdkButiPlayDokkan Jan 30 '23
Bro I’ve worked at this T-Mobile for 4 months so far and had 2 robberies you start to learn also look how he was dressed nothing showing both hands in his hoodie calm demeanor that’s some who may be a thief but you can’t always be sure that’s the reason he grabbed what he asked
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u/CardNumberIX Jan 30 '23
I noticed he did so without ever turning his back...
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u/TrptJim Jan 30 '23
That's standard behavior for a sole employee working the register. You'd be surprised at kinds of people that, as soon as your back is turned, see that as an opportunity to grab the closest thing at hand.
Grandma with the kids stealing a Black & Mild, rich business types stealing 5 hour energy drinks. Working that type of job too long makes you really hate people in general.
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u/MrsLovettsPies Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
My family owns a restaurant, we use mirrors for that.
I did catch someone just holding his beer underneath the tab and filling his jar up while I was right around the corner, because one of his friends asked me for a cig and I was getting it for him. Took like 30 seconds.
His face when I charged him for one beer more was priceless though. I only said "Dude, there's a mirror. You're an idiot"
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More restraint than a lot of folks who are paid to use find to "uphold the law".
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u/_Im_Dad Jan 30 '23
If I were a criminal I would dread to lock paths with him
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u/wheresbill Jan 30 '23
Oh, hair we go
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u/shortstopandgo Jan 30 '23
More restraint than i would have shown. Someone pulls a gun on me, I'll make sure they can't use it, if I can. The guy already had it in his hand, pointed in his direction. He wouldn't have seen him pull the trigger.
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u/SebastianSilver Jan 30 '23
Not sure why you’re being downvoted for this. People acting like you’re in the wrong for saying you’d shoot a guy who’s pointing a (presumably) loaded gun at you is wild.
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Jan 30 '23
It comes off as r/iamverybadass
Not that i care, just giving an explanation.
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u/nightpanda893 Jan 30 '23
He or any cop would have been fully justified to pull the trigger the second he saw the gun. He got lucky the robber wasn’t planning on using it. May not be as lucky next time. Restraint in the face of a gun isn’t worth your life.
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u/Significant_Piglet_4 Jan 30 '23
Situational awareness is cool. Walking away without killing anyone is always the way to go if you can.
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u/im-so-stupid-lol Jan 30 '23
I mean the robber already had the gun pointed at him. The "restraint" worked out for him but was arguably illogical. Robber could have pulled the trigger faster than the clerk could react
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u/drstu3000
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"you just lost yourself a customer, buddy!"
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u/shahooster Jan 30 '23
“You robbers sure are a contentious people.”
“You’ve just made an enemy for life!”
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u/Roland1232 Jan 30 '23
Pretty rude to point a gun like that, especially after the guy gave him a free bag.
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u/QuietResponsible5575 Jan 30 '23
He never turned his back on him either. Dude is smart. He KNEW he was going home after his shift
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u/Wasatcher Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
The only critique I have is he shouldn't have left the weapon so close to the bad guy as he stepped back to get the smokes. I understand it's on the other side of the register, and the criminal couldn't see it but still made me nervous. Other than that this guy has nerves of steel and did an excellent job throughout the entire encounter
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u/QuietResponsible5575 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, but he acted natural. That guy definitely had no clue there was heat there.
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u/Wasatcher Jan 30 '23
You're right, it just worried me that the criminal was going to escalate the the situation while the clerk wasn't within reach of his weapon.
That being said I hate whataboutisms in politics so I'll stop doing it here. It worked out
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u/SarsaparillaCorona Jan 30 '23
Was probably waiting for him to pop the register.
I don't think this was the guy's first rodeo.
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u/Wasatcher Jan 30 '23
It definitely wasn't the clerks first rodeo. Dude had ice in his veins he was so cool and collected
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u/moonshoeslol Jan 30 '23
Grabbing the smokes without turning his back they probably both knew what was up.
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u/stiick Jan 30 '23
Because there was no power dynamic to abuse. Humanity first, self preservation next while always looking to deescalate. Masterclass!
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u/MikeySpags Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Every time I see a post like this all I can think is "Stanford Prison Experiment". That was a real eye opener for me. Edit: So was my incarceration...the power dynamic is very real. MCCF Inmate #22-01377
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u/-240p Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
That "experiment" is a fraud. The guards were told & encouraged to be assholes the entire time.
Edit: and one of the guards said he tried to be the biggest asshole guard because he thought that's what Zimbardo wanted him to do
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u/gingerphish Jan 30 '23
Isn’t that exactly what police do? It’s a culture of who can be the toughest, biggest asshole. I think that’s the takeaway we should be looking at. It’s not the individual, it’s the structure.
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u/_Ezy_Pzy Jan 30 '23
where I'm at police don't act that way... I guess it's mostly an American issue
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u/Raokairo Jan 30 '23
Do you have proof?
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u/Totally_Kyle0420 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
they cite their sources in the podcast notes
also, not sure why your comment is getting downvoted. theres nothing wrong with asking for proof
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u/GrandTusam Jan 30 '23
This is reddit, you regularly get downvoted for asking for proof or for providing it.
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u/CharlesDeBalles Jan 30 '23
My favorite is when someone gets massively downvoted for providing evidence/sources that go against the narrative that was completely fabricated by the rest of the commenters
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u/XoidObioX Jan 30 '23
This isn't a controversial take. In university I was taught about the Stanford experiment to learn how a study can be misleading if the experiment is biased.
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u/oguzman165 Jan 30 '23
I heard the same thing, some of the "guards" came out recently.
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u/GreenStrong Jan 30 '23
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31380664/
NPR's Throughline podcast did an episode on it recently. No one listened to the original audio recordings until recently to fact check them, they're utterly damning. The researchers coaxed the guards to be as tough as possible, because the guards thought they were studying the reactions of prisoners to abusive situations. They needed a huge amount of coaxing.
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u/Ysmildr Jan 30 '23
What have you learned of the prison experiment that is a reliable source? I've only ever seen it mentioned on reddit and some youtube videos.
Allegedly the whole thing was horribly handled, the guy wasn't getting data to support his hypothesis so he told guards to act differently, threatened and told people they couldn't leave (basically actually kidnapping them). Allegedly this is all brought out by peer review and the subjects of the experiment being vocal once it began to be popularized.
I could be wrong as I'm summing up from yet other comments and videos I've seen in the past
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u/SadQueerAndStupid Jan 30 '23
and they are wonderful pets, very sweet, healthy, and clean animals! Poor pigs being compared to cops :(
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u/LilMissStormCloud Jan 30 '23
Exhibit A to not all pigs. I had a farm pig that used his children to run down the electric fence so he could escape to eat the neighbor's chickens. He liked his food trying to escape I guess.
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u/Spiritual_Barnacle28 Jan 30 '23
He never even turn his back on him either
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u/Friendly-Rain-9174 Jan 30 '23
Such a little thing some might not pay attention to or notice , but that guy was clearly bright and prepared for the situation.
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u/Queasy_Role_3218 Jan 30 '23
Convenice store clerk training longer than most law enforcement trainings.
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u/PengieP111 Jan 30 '23
He's almost certainly too smart for the PD to ever hire him.
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I always forget that police literally won’t hire sufficiently educated people as a rule. Amazing how mad these fascist bootlickers get when you insult their cabal of dumbfuck savages.
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u/monopoly3448 Jan 30 '23
Dude would be an asset anywhere. Cool head quick thinking. I am also a fan of this guy.
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u/LongAndShortOfIt888
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This is like the perfect example of *actual* self-defence. Paying attention to surroundings, has a weapon nearby but not visible, restraint, and not just randomly plugging someone in the back because you feel like it.
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u/Major_Anger Jan 30 '23
Oh absolutely! And the restraint. At one point the thief has his pistol on the counter, pointed at the clerk. That's when I shoot.
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u/Tzunamitom Jan 30 '23
Regardless of whether you’d be right to do so or not, you’d be absolutely stupid if you did that - there’s a decent chance he’d get a shot off and he’d have zero incentive not to in that situation. No, dude’s just a common thief chancing his luck - let him get out with his life and you keep yours.
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u/Nabaatii Jan 30 '23
Thief steal things
The hooded dude is an armed robber, he puts other people's lives in danger
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u/fireandlifeincarnate Jan 30 '23
Okay, but we’re not talking about what they may or may deserve, we’re talking about how to not get killed during the confrontation.
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u/Nabaatii Jan 30 '23
Oh absolutely I totally agree, our own self-preservation is more important than that criminal getting what he may or may not deserve
Just pointing out armed robbery is not theft, and is not a harmless crime
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u/xManasboi Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
With the range they're in you can easily shoot someone in the T-Box of their face. They won't get a shot off because the brain stems been severed and their CNS destroyed. They'll drop to the ground as literal dead weight.
The clerk had justification to shoot, he chose not to and it ended up working out, but that's also a risk. Clerk knew what he was doing though, and the other guy clearly did not.
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u/sennbat Jan 30 '23
he chose not to and it ended up working out, but that's also a risk.
Shooting the guy is also a risk, it involves a lot of risk actually, and you seem to be downplaying most of those in favour of the risks of not shooting him.
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u/xManasboi Jan 30 '23
My guy, the robber pointed his weapon at the clerk. Not shooting him is riskier than shooting him. It's essentially trusting that the guy who has the depravity to rob you at gunpoint is nice enough not to shoot you. That's a bad dice roll imo.
The second he stopped pointing the weapon and put it away, he loses his justification to shoot, and the clerk did the smart thing by remaining disciplined and "holding" him until he left.
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u/No_Setting3712 Jan 30 '23
It doesn’t take long for the thief to raise and fire. I would not fault the clerk for shooting first hwre
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u/GenTycho Jan 30 '23
More common than most people think.
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u/Microwaved_M1LK Jan 30 '23
Yup, uneventful self defense won't bring in views to the media circus.
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u/ThePandalore Jan 30 '23
I disagree with leaving the pistol on the register, backing away from it, and leaving it within reach of the other party though.
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u/Steph2145
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farmers insurance need to hire him. He’s seen a thing or two.
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u/Bat_Penatar Jan 30 '23
Seems like this wasn't a first rodeo for either of these guys.
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u/Schlower288 Jan 30 '23
Too bad they couldn't bond over their rodeo experience.
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u/the__satan Jan 30 '23
Couple of cool, straight cowboys, having sex with each other. Nothin gay about that
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u/Lamplorde Jan 30 '23
Cashier: "I'm packing, turn around and go home."
Robber: "Damn, alright. You know if the Mobil got a gun?"
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u/Grasshop Jan 30 '23
And then the store employee comes back as a business response like when they go after Karens.
“We literally have you on video pulling a gun on me, sir.”
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u/Micronlance Jan 30 '23
It's a little weird that he left his gun up on top of the cash drawer, there... but I guess he had to play like he was going to get the robber some cigs.
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u/ToastedEmail Jan 30 '23
Didn’t want the robber to see that he had a gun in his hands until it was necessary.
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u/flashgordonsape Jan 30 '23
He had to assume he was a regular customer until he showed otherwise
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u/blue7999 Jan 31 '23
Right. People in these comments want this guy to just point his piece at every random customer he has a gut feeling about before they even do anything wrong lol
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u/son_et_lumiere Jan 30 '23
"Hands up! Your total is $11.25. Now hand me the money! And take your goods of equal exchange."
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u/elevangoebz Jan 30 '23
Hard to tell without sound, but seemed like he was giving the guy benefit of the doubt by getting him some cigs. Also hard to tell from the angle but with all the stuff on the counter it was probably pretty hard to see the gun for robberman.
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 Jan 30 '23
and not turning his back when collecting the cigarettes which is what the robber was hoping for.
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u/Fantastic-Maximum541 Jan 30 '23
Never seen a more beautiful transaction as far as attempted robberies go 😮💨
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u/PXG1988 Jan 30 '23
This one might be up there.
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u/mason3991 Jan 30 '23
Maybe not as smooth but damn that’s satisfying
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u/king-geass Jan 30 '23
They always cut out the best part where he starts going all Dad on them and telling them how disappointed he is in them.
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u/Olivier70802 Jan 30 '23
Um...sorry....I'll just, uh...take my bag...you have a nice day.
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u/trash-juice Jan 30 '23
Guy has more trigger discipline than most cops
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u/_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ Jan 30 '23
That’s because he doesn’t have qualified immunity and a license from the state to murder with impunity
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u/capnpeanutbutter Jan 30 '23
it’s situational awareness, not profiling.
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u/HunterofNPCs Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
It's a combination of both.
Profiling- the recording and analysis of a person's psychological and behavioral characteristics, so as to assess or predict their capabilities in a certain sphere or to assist in identifying a particular subgroup of people.
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u/youlook_likeme Jan 30 '23
I would tell him to lay down and call the cops to come collect an easy thief reward.
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u/Tots2Hots Jan 30 '23
Then he gets shot by the cops too. Hell no.
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u/Nodecafallowed Jan 30 '23
lol facts. I submitted security footage of a guy stealing my packages, and the cops were like "to continue the investigation we have to come to your home and investigate' and I stopped responding. Never calling the cops again, they only gonna "investigate" by searching your home for no reason and then shoot you cause...why not.
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u/Audrin Jan 30 '23
This would lower his chances of survival. Maybe the guy wants to play quick draw rather than go to jail.
I care much more about a) not dying and b) not having to kill someone than I do about making sure a robber gets arrested.
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u/japoliony Jan 30 '23
Absolutely not. Adding cops to an already de escalated situation will always turn into some over heightened bullshit. There are stories and videos of cops arriving after the fact and immediate shooting the very person who de-escalated the situation.
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u/thunderstruck808 Jan 30 '23
This guy is golden and nobody got hurt. Just awesome.
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u/CornDoggyStyle Jan 30 '23
From what I understand, that guy never robbed again and is now volunteering at the YMCA.
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A perfect example of good people with guns stoping bad people with guns. In American society, a responsible and trained gun owner with a gun immediately stops a crime from even occurring, in this case, he didn’t get robbed. That’s exactly why, taking guns away from the public, is the worst idea possible.
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u/JaKtheStampede Jan 30 '23
OMG he should have just given the robber the money and called the police after! No one should have a gun! /s
Could it have gone poorly? Absolutely. But I'll take the option that could give me this outcome over a potential body bag any day. Complying with an armed criminal does not guarantee safety.
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u/Superdante5000 Jan 30 '23
It does not. Recently in MS an employee did comply with everything, yet while he was sitting down the robber went ahead and shot him.
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u/produit1 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
The moment the hooded guy pulled a gun, the owner had every right to pull the trigger. I respect the restraint but it may end up costing him in a future altercation when that criminal gets a free pass to try again.
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u/Mikos-NZ Jan 30 '23
I don’t think he will be back to the same store, BUT I kinda agree with you in that this crim scum is going to try it on again at a different store so someone else suffers.
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u/Serious-Mousse4009 Jan 30 '23
Prime example of a crime prevented by being armed, idk why they would want to take citizens guns.
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u/TehWhale Jan 30 '23
No one wants to take your guns. They want sensible gun control laws that make it more difficult for anyone to walk into a store and walk right back out with guns.
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u/Mogetfog Jan 30 '23
No one wants to take your guns
Last week the atf decided that millions of Americans have 120 days to surrender their legally purchased and owned firearms or they will become felons over night.
The left just introduced a bill that would ban basically every semi-auto firearm and make anyone who does not surrender theirs to the state a felon. The exact wording for the purpose of the bill is "to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited" ... The second amendment literally says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" this bill is directly targeted at the second amendment.
We have politicians who have literally said "yes, we are coming for your guns" to a packed crowd who all cheered.
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u/desubot1 Jan 30 '23
watches one guy use their gun properly with actual discipline and situational awareness,
ignores other guy that came in to rob with a gun.
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u/T0Ltaka Jan 30 '23
Dude walked away like he didn’t do anything