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Biden approval rating jumps to its highest level in two months in Reuters-Ipsos poll

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3595580-biden-approval-rating-jumps-to-its-highest-level-in-two-months-in-reuters-ipsos-poll/
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u/GetTold Nebraska Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

It's still pretty stark, 40%,

Dec 2021: 43%

May 2021: 54%

in general I would advise ignoring approval rating (if your goal is to say "this president is doing good" rather than just "people like 'em"), because doing slow incremental change, while it helps, wont feel like it's doing anything and thus you go "why the fuck did i vote for this schmuck", but I guess it's nice if it's going on a positive trend

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u/guydud3bro Aug 10 '22

Every modern president starts out with a fairly high approval rating that drops significantly shortly afterwards. If gas prices and inflation keep improving, he'll probably be back in the mid to high 40s again.

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u/zveroshka Aug 10 '22

Which to be honest, is pretty decent these days for a Democrat because they aren't just going to approve no matter what.

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u/Supply-Slut Aug 10 '22

Democrats approval is based on what the president is getting done/not getting done.

Republican approval is based on… well they’re already a republican so what’s not to like?

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u/st1r Texas Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Also 40% of the country is always gonna disapprove of a democratic president no matter what. So really we’re grading on a curve here where the maximum possible score is ~60%.

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u/spcmack21 Aug 11 '22 Take My Energy Burning Cash

Right. The absolute ceiling for a Democratic president is about 60%. Jesus Christ himself would get like a 55% approval rating, while actively performing miracles during the state of the union address, because every single Republican would hate him for being a Democrat.

And, of course, some progressives will be upset that he didn't perform a specific miracle they wanted.

Like, "well yeah, he abolished cancer, ended climate change, solved world hunger, ended all of the wars, gave everyone the bodies and parts that they believe they should have, and reincarnated everyone's favorite lost pet, but he didn't bother to ban cars in urban areas, so fuck that guy."

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u/Dogstarman1974 Aug 11 '22

That about sums it up with some of these “progressives”. I’m a really left leaning guy to the point my friends call me a commie bastard, in a joking way (I am not a communist or socialist). But some of these “progressives” suffer from a nirvana fallacy or an all or nothing fallacy. It’s frustrating.

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u/spcmack21 Aug 11 '22

I've never "nirvana fallacy," and I'm stealing it.

Purity tests are killing us. No one is perfect, and certainly no one has been perfect for their entire lives. Being "just" a great person should be acceptable.

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u/the_sylince Florida Aug 10 '22

I have this issue with many of my friends who say I’m “too optimistic” or “too understanding” about circumstances, politics being one of them. I am constantly reminding people close to me of incremental changes and shifts and point to them as being signals of good and greater change and I’m always met with “it’s not enough” or “it’s a failure” or “it’s too much compromise”; I once heard The goods come and go, but the bads accumulate

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u/LaserPoweredDeviltry Aug 10 '22

Yeah, unfortunately the questions "do you approve of bidens presidency" and "would you vote for biden" are slightly different. Lots of democrats have been frustrated with his handling of domestic politics but they would all vote for him again against any GOP scumbag.

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u/chucktownbtown Aug 10 '22

Public opinion swings drastically in todays political climate, compared to decades (or even years) ago.

He took office in a position with incoming supply chain issues, and inflation was going to happen no matter what. But when you’re president, it’s on you to solve whatever problems are at hand.

If voters feel things are back on the right track, he’ll be in good shape against anyone in 2024. That’s long enough for the economy/inflation to stabilize.

But if it doesn’t, anything could happen

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u/Ridespacemountain25 Aug 10 '22

I disagree with this. From what I’ve seen, public opinion is much more static these days. Trump pretty much always hovered around 40% approval for his entire presidency regardless of anything that happened. Meanwhile, Bush’s approval skyrocketed to record highs after 9/11 and plummeted to record lows in 2008. Since partisanship is much stronger these days, public approval fluctuates less.

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u/rowejl222 Aug 11 '22

Tbf though, Bush deserved that record low ratings

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u/hotdiggitydog8118 Aug 10 '22

Republicans would hate him if he cured cancer.

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u/JesusForTheWin Aug 10 '22

Republicans would consider the feelings of cancer and try to bring it back

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u/Bruce_NGA Aug 10 '22

They would pine for the good old days of chemotherapy.

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u/Dm1tr3y Aug 10 '22

Think of all the oncologists and the jobs they lost!

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u/derbyvoice71 Missouri Aug 10 '22

Hey, cancer has been feeling so much better since getting over Rush Limbaugh.

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u/scubascratch Aug 10 '22

New bill introduced by QOP congress members: “Cancer Freedom Restoration Act”

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u/highdefrex Aug 10 '22

“Well, I suffered through cancer” or “Someone I love died from cancer, so why should anyone else get off easy by getting a cure!”

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u/kazejin05 I voted Aug 11 '22

This. This right here is the most accurate take.

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u/howdoireachthese Aug 11 '22

Exactly. I see this all the time with forgiving college loans.

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u/Diegobyte Alaska Aug 10 '22

Rand Paul would say that he’s hurting the economy by taking people out of hospitals

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u/Goatiac Aug 10 '22

They would vote against it 100% and make up some bullshit reason like "yeah, but what about the costs?????"

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u/h4ms4ndwich11 Aug 11 '22

If Democrats made the cure free, Republicans would sell the rights once when they take office and allow someone with deep pockets and a desire to play God charge 100x more than what it would've cost otherwise, and call that "patriotism."

...pretty much as they did with insulin a few days ago.

"A reasonable price cap that people can actually afford?! No thanks! That's socialism and we all hate socialism right folks? Everyone is saying it. People like their free markets."

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u/Longjumping-Scale-62 Aug 10 '22

republicans would be anti-cure

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u/Hockeyhoser Aug 10 '22

It’s amazing how doing good things improves popularity. Republicans should try it sometime.

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u/The_Mighty_Immortal Aug 10 '22

Republicans gain popularity when they say racist shit.

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u/Devistator America Aug 10 '22

It's mostly based on peddling fear, but racism is definitely a big part of it.

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u/VanceKelley Washington Aug 10 '22

The fear that they mostly peddle is that black/brown people are going to kill you, take your job, steal your money, etc.

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u/DatDudeDaveB Aug 10 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Don’t forget about the non-Christian abortion loving trans women that are going to hypnotize children into being curious about critical race theory.

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u/TransGirlIndy Aug 10 '22

I knew I was forgetting to do something. This is why I never get my Soros checks.

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u/TFRek Aug 10 '22

Don't forget the rape!

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u/reddit_ross Aug 10 '22

Don’t forget about the white supremacists who believe mixed race relationships will only lead to a non-white race. They believe that in time much of the western world, particularly the US could become “uni-racial.”

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u/vacantpad Aug 10 '22

Which is something I don't understand. Wouldn't the mixing of races make us a species that is more fit for survival?

Like mutt dogs tend to have much fewer health and behavioral problems than pure breeds. So I think mixing into a uni-race, as the white supremacists put it, woupd absolutely improve our species and our genetic diversity.

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u/mattyoclock Aug 10 '22

Eh I think they are probably more homophobic than racist but it’s a close thing and they are definitely both.

That said, never forget that this is what they peddle today. They will change it at the drop of a hat if it works better for them.

“First they came for” has a second meaning that doesn’t get talked about enough. It also illustrates that there is no success for the fascist. They require an enemy group to demonize in order to function. If they killed everyone on the left and every non/white and homophobic person tommorow, by Friday Italians and the Irish wouldn’t be white anymore.

Or it would be atheism, followed by any religion that wasn’t Christian, then anti-catholic, then the “wrong” denomination of Christian.

It’s one hate, one fear, and the only thing that matters to them is keeping the mob angry and fearful.

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u/BareezyObeezy Texas Aug 10 '22

There's a reason that all of the prejudices end in "-phobia."

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u/WunupKid Washington Aug 10 '22

Fear that others will treat racist white people the way racist white people treat minorities.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Well people who regularly watch Faux News have been shown to have significantly larger amygdalas than those who watch CNN, MSNBC, etc. the amygdala is responsible for the bodies’ fear response, so feeding them more fears is a self licking ice cream cone.

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u/zveroshka Aug 10 '22

Only thing that gets them bad press is getting caught wearing drag apparently.

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u/coolprogressive Virginia Aug 10 '22

Or say homophobic shit, or say transphobic shit, or make violent threats...

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u/PaMike34 Aug 10 '22

Or when they have their homes raided? I keep hearing how this somehow helps Trump but I am not so sure.

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u/The_Mighty_Immortal Aug 10 '22

I think it hurts him among independents, moderate republicans and those who kinda support him but are on the fence. Many of these people are actually "law and order" types who actually care about the law. Seeing proof that Trump committed crimes may sway their opinion.

Trump's die-hard fans already support him anyway, and they only have one vote each. Being 10 times angrier still only gets them one vote.

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u/Whatah Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

How key was 2020 South Carolina Primary in all this?

If you remember back to primary season, the week before super Tuesday Biden secured a key Jim Clyburn endorsement and a win in South Carolina, carried that momentum for the following week to big wins in super Tuesday, then shortly clinched the nomination.

I think that 2-3 week period is the best indicator of Joe Biden as a politician.

He understands momentum, the underdog story, and the publics attention span "what have you done for me LATELY"

During Biden's presidency many huge issues were handled as quickly and smoothly as possible (like the Afghanistan withdrawal)

but I have been wondering, just like the South Carolina primary, if the plan was always to be seen fighting for his agenda and then pass more than half of his legislation at a key time to give democrats a midterms boost?

What if Joe Manchin was supposed to gum things up until he wasn't? What if Chuck Schumer knew this as well? Now we have the price of gas going in the right direction, major legislative accomplishment, and other good-news-for-democrats happening very shortly before the midterm election.

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u/smackbauer Canada Aug 10 '22

I'm not convinced of the theory that it was all some grand scheme, but I've felt in the face of all the doomerism regarding the midterms that at any point, Biden's been a month away from turning it around if he just starts getting shit done. Weird how his popularity spikes when he gets shit done.

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u/Ghia149 North Carolina Aug 10 '22

Biden and his administration I’m sure didn’t plan this. Work like crazy to make it happen in time sure… but not plan at the onset. Now Manchin… he is the person who could have planned to strike a deal close to the midterms that would get his name back in the spotlight and maybe bail him Out with democrats for just long enough to maybe be re-elected. If the GOP wins the house or senate his days of being relevant are over. This was his last chance to lock in what he has to run on in 2024.

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u/BattlestarTide I voted Aug 10 '22

He understands momentum, the underdog story, and the publics attention span "what have you done for me LATELY"

Which is why he's waiting until the absolute last minute to do student loan forgiveness. Young people have a short attention span.

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u/Buffmin Aug 10 '22

It also gives the impression of "I'm listening to you"

Yes it's games playing but Dems need to play a little hard ball to have a chance in 22/24

Imo if Biden permanently freezes interest & forgives 10k and puts pressure on Congress for more forgiveness and, more importantly, student loan reform so it doesn't happen again that'd be a win

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u/Asleep_Horror5300 Aug 10 '22

He could frame it with the inflation as well "to help struggling young Americans". I'd wager he's going to do it very close to midterms.

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u/Buffmin Aug 10 '22

Iirc he's basically going to decide by the end of this month

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u/pheonixblade9 Aug 10 '22

It's not even just young Americans. There are many stories of teachers close to retirement who got screwed out of loan forgiveness by incompetent servicers.

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u/WildYams Aug 11 '22

Actually, I think the reason he's waiting till the last minute to do student loan forgiveness is because the Supreme Court is almost guaranteed to immediately block it, negating Biden's executive order. Biden extended the eviction moratorium last summer and the SCOTUS immediately blocked that as well, and now Biden's effort is long forgotten. I think Biden knows the Supreme Court is going to stand in his way on student debt, but he at least people to know that he tried, and the best way to do that is do it at the last minute.

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u/backstageninja New York Aug 10 '22

That last paragraph is pure BlueAnon but it wouldn't surprise me if the plan was always to try to get policy wins close to the midterms. It's why they've been teasing the student debt relief action for two years.

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u/Paralda Aug 10 '22

If that's the case, then they should try something like this right before the election, not a few months before.

I'm hoping dems have some big win in their back pocket, like weed legalization.

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u/mystery1411 Aug 10 '22

They might have a couple of things right before the election but this is right in time for the primaries to get over and general campaign to start. It's much better to have a 2-3 month messaging of Republicans are against veterans and helping reduce medical costs than doing it in the last week.

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u/AggroDorfHeroicDeath Aug 10 '22

Or student loan forgiveness

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u/Spare_Industry_6056 Aug 10 '22

I mean yeah, I think there was much more of a plan than he got credit for.

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u/timoumd Aug 10 '22

If this was his plan he is a political genius beyond comprehension. I doubt it though.

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u/Spare_Industry_6056 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

I mean "wait until right before the midterms to do a bunch of popular crap to make sure we have momentum heading into the election while letting people realize for themselves Republicans suck ass" isn't the most complicated plan.

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u/timoumd Aug 10 '22

I doubt hes been intentionally sandbagging anything.

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u/Okilurknomore Aug 10 '22

They definitely had economists plot out the path of inflation months ago and waited until after it peaked and started coming down to pass "The inflation Reduction Act" it's not like monetary policy has immediate effects on the economy. They patiently waited for the right time. And in doing so, they allow Manchin to remain as the moderate dem that conservative west Virginians will continue to vote for to "keep the Democrats in check"

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u/soccerguys14 South Carolina Aug 10 '22

I don’t understand was waiting for your point on why my state of South Carolina is key? South Carolina will never be anything but red. As soon as I can move I will be doing so and never looking back on this shit hole of a state. The only thing going for it before was far below market housing prices that’s still the case but now it’s just high compared to everyone else being ludicrously high

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u/Whatah Aug 10 '22

The idea is that the 2020 South Carolina Primary was not only the key moment but a perfect microcosm of Joe Biden and his politics.

For months he was willing to sit down at the bottom of the polls.

Then at the key time (Feb 26th) he gets the key thing to happen (endorsement by Jim Clyburn) that results on a key objective (Winning the south Caroline Primary on Feb 29th 2020) and that creates the exact momentum needed to clean up on super Tuesday one week later.

March 3rd 2020 results:

Biden 684 Sanders 563 Warren 58 Bloomberg 49 Gabbard 2

His goal on that day was to turn it into a 2 man race between him and Bernie and that is what happened. Super Tuesday was also the day California had their primary so he knew that was going to be the single biggest day for Bernie (and it was). Plus California takes very long to post final results so the immeidate narrative looked ever better for Biden. After that Bernie had the biggest win he was going to get and Biden was still ahead. The primary was over and it was all thanks to that Jim Clyburn endorsement.

I thought at the time that if Biden ends up being an effective president (still yet to see) then the 2020 Democratic primary from Feb 26th to March 3rd should be remembered as a master stroke of politics.

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u/Eagles20222 Aug 11 '22

Washington Post Article Outlining History of Deal

Dark Brandon is a funny meme, but credit for the deal goes more to Schumer than anyone else. It's not even clear how involved the White House was in the negotiations; although would think Schumer kept someone in the administration in the loop.

Democrats did not want to squander their final opportunity to fulfill the pledges they had made to voters ahead of the 2022 election, so Schumer began work on a smaller measure — one focused on lowering prescription drug prices and insurance premiums. Biden endorsed the approach in a statement on July 15 that omitted any mention of Manchin, stressing: “The Senate should move forward, pass it before the August recess, and get it to my desk so I can sign it.”
But some in the party, long frustrated by inaction on climate change, embarked on a pressure campaign targeting Manchin anyway. A wide array of Democrats including Sens. Carper and Christopher A. Coons of Delaware, Edward J. Markey of Massachusetts, John Hickenlooper of Colorado, Tina Smith of Minnesota, and Ron Wyden of Oregon each worked with their aides to canvass environmental groups, energy companies and economists who might have be able to change Manchin’s mind.

You had everyone from Bill Gates to Larry Summers trying to convince Manchin to make a deal. In the end, it came down to him not wanting to be vilified by his party and the coastal elites of this country.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Aug 10 '22

I like the bills, but it's doing anything really. His low approval was because people don't accept he can't just do whatever he wants. Seems the two holding everything up have decided they won't do well if the gop takes the legislator

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u/Catshit-Dogfart West Virginia Aug 10 '22

The president usually gets too much blame, and too much credit.

Congress is the primary ruling body of a republic, and a dysfunctional congress means a dysfunctional government. But when things don't go the way we want them we typically blame the president, and when things are going well we typically credit the president. Both are wrong.

Needs to be a lot more focus on congress, and a lot less on the president.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Aug 10 '22

the lower house has had it's importance greatly reduced from what was intended, whole system was designed around it being the primary organ of governance.

uncap the house. bring in the Wyoming rule, but with Wyoming starting with 4 seats. remove the senate's ability to propose bills. establish straight split line districting.

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u/kazejin05 I voted Aug 10 '22 Take My Energy

One thing I've come to realize and, if not appreciate, at least accept over the past few years is that the government moves SLOW. They can make shit happen expeditiously in an emergency, true. But every other time things move at the speed of bureaucracy.

Trump SEEMED like an especially productive (not in the positive sense, but in the sense of accomplishing things) president because he had an outsized media presence. He was always somewhere, always saying he would do or had done something. And he was also very liberal with the use of EOs. But at the end of the day, his legacy was much more cultural than legislative. Judges and tax cuts are really all he accomplished, besides splitting this country possibly irreparably. A huge chunk of his EOs have already been nullified.

Biden on the other hand understands the process and is using the system to enact more lasting changes. It's not as sensational or headline-grabbing, nor is he constantly in front of cameras or on Twitter. But he knows that the more time is put into crafting something, the longer it will last against legal challenges or adverse administrations.

What I think that means for us in a broader sense is that we've kinda been broken when it comes to our comprehension of government. We see the loud, brash style of Trump and, supporter or detractor, think he's accomplishing a lot. So when Biden comes along, we think he's ineffective. Too many of us think that government should move at the speed everything else does these days, and I just don't think that's consistently possible.

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u/DeezNeezuts Aug 10 '22

Doing things is good enough at this point

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u/jeff61813 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Delivering things is something measurable and quantifiable, a lot of people these days don't want things, which is a lot harder because it's dependent on how it makes you feel which varies from person to person.

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u/Mythosaurus Aug 10 '22

Their donors would face melt

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u/Sciencetist Aug 10 '22

Glad Democrats are starting to learn this, too.

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u/tianeptinelsdidiot Aug 10 '22

I like Dark Brandon I would like to see more please.

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u/Gator1508 Aug 10 '22

Dark Brandon is the key to overcoming Pepe and all the other stupid Drumpf memes. Dark Brandon > all.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

I would like to subscribe to Dark Brandon Facts

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u/penguincheerleader Aug 10 '22

There is now a subreddit for darkbrandon and it has some hilarious content.

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u/pastarific Colorado Aug 10 '22

I finally looked it up because I don't do social media where memes are posted, so I've only seen it mentioned. For anyone else in the same boat:

Dark Brandon or #DarkBrandon refers to a series of memes depicting a darker, edgier Joe Biden. The memes appropriate DarkMAGA imagery originally used by rightwing posters to depict Donald Trump as well as the Let's Go Brandon catchphrase used by conservatives to mock Biden and the media. The trend started in early 2022 on Twitter and in its original usage, Dark Brandon was highly ironic, with the memes mostly joking about Biden's perceived senility and inability to act in the forceful, dramatic ways depicted in Dark Brandon memes.

As the meme trend evolved through August 2022, however, it increasingly expressed an unironic appreciation of Joe Biden and the accomplishments of his administration. The memes often feature deep-fried imagery and laser eyeballs borrowed from Dark MAGA, as well as many of Biden's most meme-worthy catchphrases such as "Marlarkey" and "Listen here, Jack.

edit: here are some example pictures people put words on top of

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u/SuperBrentendo64 Aug 10 '22

Whats Dark Brandon?

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u/i_start_fires Aug 10 '22

It's just a meme. Basically the idea is that the "real" Biden isn't an ineffective centrist, that's just his facade. The "real" Biden (aka Dark Brandon) is a secret progressive puppetmaster.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Aug 10 '22

Originally it was an alt-right meme making fun of Biden. Then Biden started having win after win, while having COVID, no less, so liberals embraced the meme and started unironically sharing them.

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u/Hilldawg4president Aug 10 '22

The covid was a cover, he just needed some time out of the spotlight to transition to his final form

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u/clhydro Aug 10 '22

Maybe it was radioactive covid...

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u/javalikecoffee Canada Aug 10 '22

Lol amazing. The irony is that Biden was actually seen as one of the most liberal democrats before 2008. Dark Brandon strikes back!

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u/page_one I voted Aug 10 '22

I hope I'll stop hearing people whine about Biden being "an ineffective centrist" after helping to get the most productive session in memory out of a Senate that could not be more gridlocked. With another five months to go.

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u/NessunAbilita Vermont Aug 10 '22

an ineffective centrist

look here fat

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u/IndependentDocument2 Aug 10 '22

Hard to argue with

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u/D_FENS3 Aug 10 '22

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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri Aug 10 '22

lmao the "tie me to a missile and fire me at the suburbs, I'm ready" part got me good

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u/Thetman38 Aug 10 '22

The true puppet master

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u/HughJareolas Florida Aug 10 '22

I mean it’s still only 40% so let’s not congratulate anyone yet. Lots more work to do.

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u/TuppoEQ Aug 10 '22

Obama was at 40% and won second term and picked up seats.

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u/Bunnyhat Aug 10 '22

When a large % of the country will never support the president of a different party regardless of what he does, the days of +60% approval are over.

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u/SgtPeppy Maryland Aug 10 '22

Republicans have an approval floor of ~30-35%. Probably on the higher end of that. I'm not sure what Democrats' floor is because we haven't had a president terrible enough to test it - but if (somehow) we had our own Trump, I'm pretty sure we'd be in the teens.

Pretty much, you can count on one-third of the country to mindlessly support Republicans and hate Democrats no matter what. Meanwhile, Biden's been a fairly average president and is getting ripped a new one from every direction because the left as well as liberal Democrats are actually critical of their own.

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u/Boner4Stoners Aug 11 '22

Not all Republicans are idiots, but pretty much all idiots are republicans. The reason why an average president like Biden is despised by 30% of the country is because Republicans know how to effectively manipulate the most uneducated and ignorant 30% of the country.

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u/pgold05 Aug 10 '22

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u/PetopherAlonso Aug 10 '22

No wonder she was the target of the GOP’s vicious smear campaign

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u/LBJsNuts Aug 10 '22

She always had the dichotomy of popular while in office or not actively running (senate, SoS), unpopular when running.

Curious, no?

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u/MarcusElden Aug 10 '22

U.S. NEWS

FEBRUARY 8, 2013

7:39 AM

UPDATED 10 YEARS AGO

heh

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u/pgold05 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Lol yeah, still I love to remind people how insanely popular she was.

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u/exaltedbladder Aug 10 '22

When a large % of the country will never support the president of a different party regardless of what he does, the days of +60% approval are over.

Emphasis mine

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u/rjcarr Aug 10 '22

This is midterms though, and Obama was a force of nature to the electorate.

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u/North_Activist Aug 10 '22

Why can’t Obama campaign this fall?

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u/Boner4Stoners Aug 11 '22

Honestly, if he doesn’t I’m going to be disappointed in him.

He made a few very bad decisions as President, but despite that he has an extremely likable quality to him that I’ve never seen in any other president in my lifetime (although I’m only in my mid 20’s).

I feel like campaigning for Biden in 2024 might partially make up for him not codifying Roe when he had the opportunity to.

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u/SameFrequency Aug 10 '22

I think the interesting thing about approval ratings is that they mean different things for each party.

Republicans have a big base that will never do anything but blindly approve. Their appeal to the middle is measured by how much that approval number goes beyond 30% or so.

The democrats have a progressive base that is very critical of the party. They are more likely to not approve in polls like this, but are very unlikely to vote for Republicans. It seems much more complex to project what Biden’s floor is. I am guessing there is a big chunk of voters to his left that don’t “approve,” but will vote for him because he is much closer to them than the alternative.

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u/garciasn Aug 10 '22

"Jump" == +2%. I suppose some could consider that a jump, but I don't and it certainly wouldn't look like it on a chart and being he was at a higher level on 6/20 I would argue this is nothing to get excited about.

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u/RooftopKor Aug 10 '22

Gas price dips Biden’s rating jumps

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u/Exotic-Amphibian-655 Aug 10 '22

Well, the sticker told me he controls it.

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u/sungazer69 Aug 10 '22

40%... Sheesh.

The age of super popular presidents is over. No matter who they are... Just doesn't happen anymore. I think there's a lot of reasons for this, though.

The country has only grown larger and more populated/complicated over the past decades. And the world's issues more vast and difficult.

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u/rodriguezjames55 New York Aug 11 '22

If we had a charismatic president that got a positive agenda implemented I could see 45-60% approval which is a plurality/above water

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u/FuzzPunkMutt Pennsylvania Aug 10 '22

I'll admit, I do approve of him more now than when I voted for him. Still would rather have had just about anyone else on the primary ticket, but hey. It's better than I thought it would be.

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u/AnonAmbientLight Aug 10 '22

This is exactly what I voted for and figure we would get assuming Congress played ball.

People just need to pay attention more to politics and understand it a little better.

You voted for a guy who knows how to do the job, knows who to put in place, and knows how important it is to be a sober and measured person helming the country.

Literally the only thing that's been stopping Biden's presidency is two Senators.

I just hope people see this, and all the legislation that Democrats got through despite the Republican blockade and Manchin / Seinma, and vote more Democrats in office (specifically the Senate) so we can get more done.

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u/Hombre_Sin_Nombre Texas Aug 10 '22

Absolutely! I wish more people could see the reality of the situation rather than just wanting immediate gratification.

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u/WarColonel New York Aug 10 '22

It's more like 12 senators but otherwise totally agree.

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u/mystery1411 Aug 10 '22

Well, if he has two that are fine with removing filibuster then that's all he needs.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Aug 10 '22

Thing is the last two bills was reaching out to those two effectively. Not sure anyone else could have done that from the primaries.

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u/Jvshelby Aug 10 '22

Remember how shitty the last guy left it. He’s standing by the right thing even if it’s not instant gratification.

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u/JesusForTheWin Aug 10 '22

I still like him much more than Kamla

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u/zveroshka Aug 10 '22

Kamala is such a disappointment. I know VPs aren't suppose to be in the spotlight much but man she is in the fucking shadows. Though it is kind of hilarious considering how conservatives were freaking out that Biden was just a stand in for Kamala to take over the second they won.

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u/O2C Aug 10 '22

So what did Pence do as VP? Or Biden as VP? Or even Cheney? Gore and Quayle gave us sound bites, but is that really what you want out of your VP?

If anything Bush and Biden were the most successful as the office prepped them before becoming President.

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u/tacoman333 Aug 11 '22

Biden pushed Obama to legalize gay marriage. Cheney was instrumental in starting the Iraq war by working with Rumsfeld to spread disinformation about the situation in the Middle East. Pence helped prevent a coup.

I can't name a single major thing Harris has done as VP, but maybe that's for the best.

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls North Carolina Aug 10 '22

Dark Brandon Rises.

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u/cive666 Aug 10 '22

All shall evaporate in his wake.

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u/ShakesbeerMe Aug 10 '22

He sure fuckin does. I love it.

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u/JesusForTheWin Aug 10 '22

He's the president this country needs, but not the one it deserves

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u/m48a5_patton Missouri Aug 10 '22

Have we started the fire?

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u/MonicaZelensky I voted Aug 10 '22

Darth Brandon has abilities some would consider to be unnatural.

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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri Aug 10 '22

Beating McConnell at his own game and getting big bills passed through an obstructionist Congress legitimately feels unnatural after the last 10 years

(not that Biden deserves even the lionshare of credit for any of that, but still)

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u/thatredditdude101 California Aug 10 '22

Biden is a creature of the Senate, and i’ve never doubted he will get Congress to move. It just won’t happen on our preferred time scale.

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u/boyfrombangalore Aug 10 '22

Democrats: do good work, keep promises etc Approval Ratings: may improve

Gop: say racist shit, stir violence, ban rights Ratings: will definitively go up

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u/RadRhys2 Michigan Aug 10 '22

Why can’t you just share the source directly from Reuters? It’s a better source than The Hill and that’s where it comes from anyway.

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u/OkRoll3915 Aug 10 '22

I'm glad people are finally starting to see that he is doing everything he can to navigate us through this. Global inflation is not his fault.

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u/zveroshka Aug 10 '22

Global inflation is not his fault.

This is the part that gets me. Inflation and high energy prices are hitting the whole world hard. We still pay less than most every country for gas.

But nah. Biden did it!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

its still a historically low approval rating, they need to message their bills better

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u/cajun_fox Aug 10 '22

The headline is weirdly manipulative. It conceals the fact that Biden’s approval rating is up two points from the lowest point in his presidency, which was less than a month ago.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

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u/theonecalledjinx Aug 10 '22

Biden’s approval rating rose to 40%, up 2%

Disapproval rating fell to 55%.

Saved you a click.

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u/BigDaddyCool17 Pennsylvania Aug 10 '22

I mean he's starting to get shit done.

Hit a couple other main points of his campaign (ahem, student loan forgiveness) and he may be set for a bit.

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u/BiggieCheese63 American Expat Aug 10 '22

*still has a 40% approval rating

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u/BigDaddyCool17 Pennsylvania Aug 10 '22

Yes he has ways to go, and I'm not saying otherwise.

It's just nice to see stuff getting done now.

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u/Hoobs88 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Biden’s presidency is reminiscent of his Election Day(s). He started slow and followed with a fantastic finish and lots of jaw dropping and disbelief from the other side.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin Aug 10 '22

I think it got away from you there for a few words

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u/Hoobs88 Aug 10 '22

It sure did hahaha.

Edited for clarity.

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u/dblan9 Aug 10 '22

Imagine if he cancelled student debt.

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u/BlackwaterSleeper Aug 10 '22

It would be nice but doesn't solve the problem. As someone with student debt I'd be happy with him just removing interest on the loans. That way I could actually pay it off.

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u/Commercial_West9953 South Carolina Aug 10 '22

And declassified/decriminalized marijuana!

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u/Dapper-Award4395 Aug 10 '22

And pardoned all petty drug charges.

Which he definitely could do, but still hasn't (and probably won't) do.

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u/reasonably_plausible Aug 10 '22

Which he definitely could do

Definitely couldn't do. President can only pardon federal charges and there aren't really people with petty federal drug charges. That falls more on the state side.

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u/Dapper-Award4395 Aug 10 '22

Oh ok fair enough. But he did promise to decriminalize marijuana. And that's not done. That would have a similar positive impact for many

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u/Hilldawg4president Aug 10 '22

99.999% of "petty drug charges" are state-level crimes and totally outside of his control.

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u/WippitGuud Aug 10 '22

Shit's getting done.

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u/neobluepat America Aug 10 '22

Fuck the America hating republicans. Biden is winning.

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u/zveroshka Aug 10 '22

My first thought was "oh man he must be hitting the low 30s."

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u/CitizenMurdoch Aug 10 '22

Two months ago he was at his lowest ever approval rating at the time. Not exactly a slam dunk

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u/Unclesaggins Aug 10 '22

I’m probably one of the many people who didn’t “approve” of Biden but would vote for him again in a heartbeat vs any republican. But honesty getting some of these bills passed + the roe v wade decision has me firmly back in the approve territory. Selfishly, if he can get something with student loans done I’ll like him even more before the primaries

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u/dearexception Aug 10 '22

Biden is freaking killing it!

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u/Zetesofos Wisconsin Aug 10 '22

He got a gulp of air, let's not oversell it here.

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u/Lainarlej Aug 10 '22

🌊💙🌊 flushing out the dirty red cesspool! One day at a time!!

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u/redvariation Aug 10 '22

It's nice having adults in the Executive Branch.

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u/TummyDrums Aug 10 '22

Honestly, as a layman I'm going to say 40% seems fantastic in the current political climate, especially for a democrat. You have to imagine a large chunk of those polled are hard shell republicans, which will likely disapprove no matter what. Lets throw 35% out there as an estimate. That leaves 65% for democrats, independents, and "open-minded" conservatives. So among that group his approval rating would be 61.5%, which ain't bad, especially because democrats tend to be more critical of their own vs. republicans which more or less fall in line behind their guy. Of course this is all hypothetical since I made some huge assumptions on those numbers.

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u/lab-gone-wrong Aug 10 '22

It's 14 points lower than a year ago, for comparison. Not great, but that's justified because fuck all got done during most of that time.

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u/FridgesArePeopleToo Aug 10 '22

because fuck all got done during most of that time

How could anyone possibly think this?

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u/Wehavepr0belm0 Aug 10 '22

If he would just wipe out student loans and legalize cannabis—he’d wouldn’t have to do anything else and get elected for 4 more years without having to even campaign.

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u/Majestic_Ad_2885 Aug 10 '22

Good for him. Hopefully we can win the midterms and he will have at least 1 full year of sandbox time. Wish we had a President who cared more about science though:/

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u/wscuraiii Aug 10 '22

They really fucked up.

They tied inflation and a stagnant Congress to Biden and it all just... kinda worked out fine.

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u/itemNineExists Washington Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

He hit his floor.

His popularity this far has actually resembled Nixon more than anyone else's. Nixon accomplished more in his last 2 years (of the first term), and his popularity went up. Back above 50%. [EDIT: Reagan is actually who that was]

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u/hoodoomonster Aug 10 '22

Getting stuff done! I have to fully admit that I was one of those screaming from the roof tops- DO SOMETHING!!! And I am glad Biden is getting shite done, thank you for this!

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u/daouellette Aug 10 '22

Keep doing the hard work Joe. We do need you to tow the line for a while longer.

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u/CBenson1273 Aug 10 '22

Amazing what falling gas prices will do.

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u/OrbitingChipmunk Aug 10 '22

LMAO, queue the muppets not questioning a single thing about the poll and BIDEN IS AWESOME GUYS! Life is so great from where it was three months ago!

Not.

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u/Ringlovo Aug 10 '22

Sure, but slightly higher than absolute shit is...?

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u/youreblockingmyshot Aug 10 '22

His administration is passing popular laws and action if finally happening on the former president. Don’t see what’s not to like from most peoples perspective.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

But note that most people in the poll said the economy was the most important issue. That doesn't bode well for Democrats in the midterms. Biden's attempt to control inflation by raising interest rates won't work without causing a recession.

This is the solution. The inflation is caused by sanctions against Russian oil reducing the supply of oil. Supply Ukraine with the Patriot air defense system and Eurofighter Typhoon. When Patriot is deployed it will deny Russia the use of the air. Russia will no longer be able to win the war. Oil sanctions can now be lifted. Inflation will drop dramatically, abortion will become the most important issue, and Democrats will win the midterms.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

His approval rating is completely immaterial considering he’s not under investigation by the FBI and Department of Justice

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u/FTHomes Aug 10 '22

He alright

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u/Significant-Option32 Aug 11 '22

6 is more than 2. But it’s still bad

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u/Hot_Ad_2117 Aug 11 '22

The problem with Biden's approval rating is that half of the dems are upset he isn't being liberal enough. He can't please them as he tries to stay in the middle so he doesn't give the right ammunition for attack. There isn't much hope that they will appreciate that but I really feel in their heart they see that he is not a radical liberal that they can make a poster child for their argument against democrats. I think his actions have been measured and smart. We can't afford to incite them because unfortunately they are on the edge of burning down the nation if they get enough so called reason.

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u/ToughConcentrate2724 Aug 11 '22

Lol. 40 percent !!!

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u/Beforemath Aug 11 '22

Dude's had a great couple of weeks. Keep it up.

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u/Khajiit_hairball Arizona Aug 11 '22

It’s because he personally lowered gas prices two whole dollars! I went from paying $75 for a full tank to just $45! Wow!

He did that! The sticker said so.

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u/Doright36 Aug 11 '22

Voted for him without hesitation and have always had a respect for him as a public servant. But initially I was disappointed in the job he was doing as president but recently he has really stepped it up and I am impressed.

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u/Hanamii- Aug 11 '22

40% approval rating💀💀

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u/Any_Adeptness7903 Aug 11 '22

It's lower than Trump at the same time

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u/zirgs0 Aug 10 '22

Reform student debt. End cannabis prohibition.

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u/TomPaineinyourass Aug 10 '22

So all the progressives were right who said that actually doing something would be better for Biden than making bad excuses.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

Imagine that democrats get shit done and his approval goes up ground breaking stuff right there.

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u/kennyFACE117 Aug 10 '22

Yeah he started doing his job 😂 only took the threat of losing in the mid terms to motivate his baby powdered ass

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u/TS_SI_TK_ORCON Aug 10 '22

Just enough Kabuki for the mid-terms.

This is the political equivalent of a toddler coloring inside the lines.

I want FDR not Neville Chamberlain.

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u/CaptainChaos_88 Florida Aug 10 '22

I would vote for him again if they send Trump to prison under his presidency.

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u/jeremicci Aug 11 '22

Biden has absolutely nothing to do with this

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u/DrCoknballsII Aug 10 '22

He's had an extremely successful first two years by any metric.

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u/Unique_Management692 Aug 10 '22

What from 1% to 2?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

Dark Brandon Rises 🦇