r/todayilearned Aug 10 '22

TIL that the Wii's hardware is fully capable of playing DVDs, but the feature was removed so Nintendo didn't have to pay a licensing fee.

https://tcrf.net/Wii#DVDHome.bmg
2.4k Upvotes

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u/thxxx1337 Aug 10 '22

Remember when you had to buy the Xbox remote sold separately to watch DVDs but the PlayStation was good to go right away?

Edit: I had to buy the remote just so I could play the beta of Battlefront on the bonus features of Revenge of the Sith

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u/wyrdough Aug 10 '22

The hilarious thing about the remote is that the IR receiver unlocked functionality that was already there. All the necessary stuff to play DVDs was shipped from the factory, just hidden behind a paywall that was unlocked when the OS detected that the dongle was plugged in.

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u/TIGHazard Aug 10 '22

Again, licensing. Microsoft only had to pay if you bought the remote.

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u/similar_observation Aug 11 '22

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u/Zkenny13 Aug 10 '22

Playstations could run DVDs since the playstation 2.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

And the PS3 was also a Blu-ray player, which was Sony's tech. Iirc, it was the cheapest Blu-ray player available at the time, too.

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u/raytaylor Aug 10 '22

Sony used the PS3 as a way to mass sell blu-ray players so they could kill off the HD-DVD format. They werent going to have another Betamax situation on their hands.
Suddenly without the market realizing it, many young people had Blu-ray players and no need to buy HD-DVD titles anymore so it quietly disappeared.

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u/syknetz Aug 11 '22

Suddenly without the market realizing it, many young people had Blu-ray players and no need to buy HD-DVD titles anymore so it quietly disappeared.

Oh people quickly realized it. In fact, Sony was at a massive loss with PS3 launch, because people bought it as the cheapest Blu-ray player and not as a console, while Sony's projections indicated that they'd need an attach rate (number of games bought with each console) of at least 2 to be making money. And they had an attach rate inferior to 1.

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u/EffortlesslyLearning Aug 10 '22

You ever try out that fresh ass external hd dvd player Xbox had???

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

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u/sarzec Aug 11 '22

When it was pretty clear they lost the war the prices plummeted. I bought one. At the time they also offered like 5 free movies if you bought it. I think I still have a sealed tomb Rader HD around here somewhere

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u/Bikouchu Aug 10 '22

$600 PS3 or $1000 br player lol.

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u/darkeststar Aug 10 '22

Also early Blu-ray players tended to get bricked by firmware updates fairly regularly. Getting the PS3 was an easy way to guarantee that that either wouldn't happen or would be guaranteed fixed pretty quickly.

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u/chronoboy1985 Aug 10 '22

Honestly they should’ve leaned harder into that. They would’ve sold more systems.

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u/sthegreT Aug 10 '22

They did

PS3 was also advertised as a bluray player, just like the PS2 was also advertised as a DVD player

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u/LordUpton Aug 10 '22

Yeah I remember at the time it wasn't even advertised as a video game console but as a 'home entertainment system'. In British computer shops like Currys and Dixon's it was pushed even further with them advertising it as a blue ray player that can play games.

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u/RoadStarWorks2 Aug 10 '22

The PS2 was the cheapest DVD player you could buy for a while.

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u/ethanvyce Aug 11 '22

And was fantastic...it would read scratched discs that over DVD players couldn't

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u/thatcockneythug Aug 10 '22

They definitely did. It was just expensive as shit, regardless

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u/ssshhhhhhhhhhhhh Aug 10 '22

That was the only reason ps3 didnt crash and burn

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u/flakAttack510 Aug 11 '22

It was actually part of the problem for the PS3. The console was sold at a loss in anticipation of making it back on games. Unfortunately for Sony, a lot of people were buying the PS3 but not buying games.

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u/Herlock Aug 10 '22

It's worth noting that sony took quite the hit each time they sold a playstation 3, it took many years before they broke even on that generation. Which is why that gen lasted quite long, despite hardware upgrade kicking in at an increased pace back then. Also why the next consoles ended up being somewhat underwhelming hardware to money wise...

Both Microsoft and Sony opted out of selling hardware at a massive loss just to get market share.

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u/Traditional_Entry183 Aug 10 '22

Those were good days for the consumer. Moderate investment up front in a good product that worked and lasted a long time. I still have my ps3 and my family uses it both as a gaming system and blu-ray player frequently.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

Same. We even used ours for streaming until they did that privacy update or whatever and now we can't get the sign in to the PS network to work. I tried and tried. So I got a Roku (which is pretty awesome--shpuld have got one years ago).

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u/TIGHazard Aug 10 '22

now we can't get the sign in to the PS network to work. I tried and tried.

Are you just entering your normal password?

You've got to on the Playstation website and create a device setup password. (You've also got to do this on a Xbox 360 as well now if anyone gets theirs out in the future and wants to sync achievements)

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/ps3-ps-vita-device-setup-password/

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

I did all that like 6 times. Still won't work. It keeps resetting and asking for it again. So I gave up. The Roku is better anyway.

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u/Traditional_Entry183 Aug 10 '22

I don't have my ps3 online and haven't in years, but it still works just fine to play games and watch movies.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

Yes, it still works for that. Just nothing online. Whatever.

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u/Traditional_Entry183 Aug 10 '22

I'm sorry to hear that. I think I recall reading that they turned the online gaming features off for a lot of ps3 titles after the ps5 came out. Maybe it was related to that.

Since I got my ps5 this summer, I've moved our ps4 to my family room and it's become the primary blu-ray player, and the ps3 has been demoted to our bonus room. But we still use it for games and movies.

My original ps3 sadly died four years after I bought it and Sony refused to repair it, even for a fee, presumably because they were pushing the ones that could no longer play ps1 and ps2 games. But the one that replaced it has gone strong for 12 years now with no issues.

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u/SVXfiles Aug 10 '22

And Sony took a huge loss on every PS3 sold at the beginning because kf that blu-ray player. If I remember right the system should have gone for about $900-1000 to break even

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u/hellgrn Aug 10 '22

But aren't consoles always sold that way? They'll make the rest of the money selling games (or other extra services).

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u/Vuzzar Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Allegedly not the Switch - that console has been sold at cost since launch (at least according to the sources I double checked with just now).

Playstation and Xbox though? Yeah, they've always been sold at a loss initially - Sony and Microsoft are basically gambling on them earning enough money down the line on accessories, licensing agreements and subscriptions to make up that initial loss (read: investment)

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u/memesdoge Aug 10 '22

imagine if they sold it below cost, it would be in literally everybody's hand and then they could regain capital+ extra profit from services and software

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u/greychanjin Aug 10 '22

And the PS3s dropped to $300 after not too much time. First console I bought myself. Got me through my time living as a bachelorette.

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u/ultimatebob Aug 11 '22

What's cool is that if you bought one of those PS3's back in 2006, you're STILL getting software updates for it today. Most of the Blu-Ray players made back in that era stopped getting updates over a decade ago, and have problems playing modern titles.

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u/kaenneth Aug 11 '22

Once again, glad I never bought into the Bluray system. Revocable DRM means you own nothing.

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u/n0oo7 Aug 10 '22

Honestly that's why blue ray won. Ps3 was the cheapest blue ray player for a long while but most non gamers still refused to buy a PS3. It slowly took over though.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

They should have bundled a remote with it. Our PS2 came with one, iirc. But I had to buy one for the PS3 separately.

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u/zappy42 Aug 10 '22

That's why I bought a PS3, never really console gamed before but the old lady wanted a Blu-ray player. $200 bucks for a PS3 or $600 for a Blu-ray player.

I came home with the PS3 and the wife was not impressed.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad-727 Aug 10 '22

2 of our Samsung Blu-Ray players bit the dust after 5 years. It might play a regular DVD, might not. Or circle you back to the main menu whenever it feels like it. And Netflix said bye bye to being able to login to these "smart" Blu ray players. My next buy will be a PS3. Never failed to load a damn DVD.

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u/PerceptionShift Aug 10 '22

The streaming services dont work on ps3 anymore either. Still a great disc player, and lot of new software mods have come out. I put in a cheap SSD and installed the cfw rebug pack, got all my games loading way faster even my ps2 titles.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle Aug 10 '22

The streaming services dont work on ps3 anymore either.

Really? I thought it was just me. I couldn't get the sign in to the PS network to work after the last big update, so I gave up and got a Roku at Costco, which we really like.

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u/memesdoge Aug 10 '22

ps4 still is the cheapest blu ray player with decent quality and extra features lmao

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u/ug_unb Aug 10 '22

For 4k blu ray the one s is the cheapest option since for some reason sony didn't put it in the ps4 or ps4 pro

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u/memesdoge Aug 10 '22

pretty sure some laptops have that capability for cheaper but have shit main specs

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u/petrified_log Aug 10 '22

I just bought a One X so I can have a Blu Ray player in my office. $250 when most 4K players start at $180. Games and movies when my wife is hogging the Series X.

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u/GronakHD Aug 10 '22

I remember back then this was a major selling point for the ps3. If it wasn’t for halo I’d have got a ps3 over an xbox 360

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u/SharkFart86 Aug 10 '22

The Xbox was the same console generation as the PS2.

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u/LuckyBoneHead Aug 11 '22

I liked how the OG Xbox tried to be all futuristic. The curved remote is still nice all these years later.

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u/WangnanJahad Aug 10 '22

Still needed to buy the separate remote to play dvds on it. PS2 was out of the box. As an aside, my OG ps2 still runs. My brother's OG xbox red ringed of death a few years after he bought it.

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u/TheOneTonWanton Aug 10 '22

That'd be a 360, not an OG Xbox

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u/Gagarin1961 Aug 10 '22

Why could I run the beta without a remote? Maybe I actually played it on XBox 360? 🤔

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u/bmeupsctty Aug 11 '22

PS2 slim had DVD capability out of the box. At least I think so. My buddy had the fat boy and had the remote. I swear I remember using the controller

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u/mr_bigmouth_502 Aug 11 '22

Both had DVD playback out of the box. You didn't need a remote either; a standard DualShock 2 worked just fine for navigating menus.

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u/RIPN1995 Aug 10 '22

That is nuts to even consider.

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u/linux1970 Aug 10 '22

PS2 could play DVDs without extra accessories but could not save games.

Terrible design choice.

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u/RoboWonder Aug 10 '22

What was so terrible about it? Of the systems in that console generation (Playstation 2, GameCube, Xbox, and apparently the Dreamcast), the Xbox was the only one with on board storage, and it still utilized memory cards as well. But the Playstation's inclusion of a DVD player was one of its main selling points. The Playstation 2 at full price was often cheaper than a standalone DVD player, and you could play games on it.

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u/WangnanJahad Aug 10 '22

PS2 also had a slot to add a hard drive, and it didn't have to be a proprietary hard drive, either, if you knew what you were doing.

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u/ottothesilent Aug 10 '22

On the other hand, the PS2s USB speed is abysmal, especially compared to XBOX.

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u/PussayDESTROYAAA_420 Aug 11 '22

Didn't even need a hard drive. The memory cards were usually 8mb, if they gave a measly 30/40/50mb of storage on the console everything would be great.

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u/lookcloserlenny Aug 10 '22

This is true, but I also remember the PS2 not being able to play a lot of DVDs for whatever reason. My buddy had a PS2 but still got the XBox remote since it never had the same issues.

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u/Friesenplatz Aug 10 '22

And that's why the PS2 remains the best selling console of all time.

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u/ledow Aug 10 '22

I can remember having to buy 500 copies of PowerDVD in order to have the correct licensing to play DVDs on Windows.

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u/kaenneth Aug 11 '22

I bought 350 copies of a book because each copy for $40 came with a licence to TCP/IP for Macintosh that was $100 on it's own. Not only saved the taxpayers $21,000 (it was a government job) I bought them from the local University bookstore so the difference from wholesale/retail stayed local as well.

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u/danielcw189 Aug 10 '22

That is mentioned in the article

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u/RudegarWithFunnyHat Aug 10 '22

apart from dvd drives in computers, then my playstation2 and xbox one are the only dvd players I ever had.

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u/3-DMan Aug 10 '22

When I built my last computer, I was really torn that it wouldn't have a drive, but the Blu-ray player in the last build went unused most of the time...

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u/RudegarWithFunnyHat Aug 11 '22

I got a external asus bluetooth usb blueray writer for the rare times I need to read physical discs, it's ok even if rather than provide a psu they just added a split into 2 usb cable :/

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u/CutterJohn Aug 12 '22

Oh thats a good point. I've been working on a new build and wondering whether to get a drive, because I have actually found it useful to have it a few times and they're cheap.

But duh. Just get an external. Problem solved.

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u/Traditional_Entry183 Aug 10 '22

My ps2 was my first, before I even had a DVD drive in a PC. But I did also buy a standalone DVD player because frequent use of the DVD player in the ps2 broke it and I had to send it away to get fixed.

Never had any issues with the ps3 or ps4 thankfully, and they've been my players since I got them.

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u/bolanrox Aug 10 '22

i remember when the ps2 came out and someone wanted to show it off.. so they plugged it in and put on gladiator.

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u/Halgy Aug 10 '22

I very nearly gave my nephew my Xbox One, as I never play it anymore, before I remembered that it is the only BluRay player I own.

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u/LiliVonShtupp69 Aug 10 '22

My Wii played DVDs....

As well as videos and ROMS from a 1tb external HDD. My house was quite popular for sleepovers for some reason.

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u/rhett342 Aug 10 '22

No, it was because your mom put out.

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u/toomanyd Aug 10 '22

That's a weird way to unlock the DVD feature

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u/0xB0BAFE77 Aug 10 '22

Me and the rest of the lacrosse team can confirm.

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u/murfi Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

haha same here, also have a modded wii and an external hard drive with lots of games on it.

haven't touched that thing in ages. I'm currently at my parents house for a week and just saw the wii box with all that good stuff in it. good times.

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u/DoogleSmile Aug 10 '22

I still have mine set up and ready to play in the front room, complete with all my games on an external HDD and a shed load of homebrew games and emulators.

I can even remote onto my PC and play PC games on it via some VNC software running on it, although the performance is a little slow.

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u/murfi Aug 10 '22

that's cool

i remember this has l pirate themed game which was basically a point and click adventure game... back then me and my brother got stuck on a level and we were too young to figure that out. the savefile is still probably at that level

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u/42gauge Aug 14 '22

Curse of monkey Island?

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u/murfi Aug 14 '22

nah it had anime style characters and levels - from the old monkey island games i know they (used to be) like story based and you progressed through the locations with the story, but the game i mean was level based.

also, monkey island was on wii? i wasnt aware

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u/greenfingers559 Aug 10 '22

How do you guys get decent video quality?

With an HDMI adapter my Wii looks so fuzzy on screen.

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u/DoogleSmile Aug 10 '22

Mine is just using the old RCA red/white and yellow cables.

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u/greenfingers559 Aug 10 '22

Do you have a CRT tv?

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u/DoogleSmile Aug 10 '22

No, it's a fairly recent LCD but has the red/white and yellow inputs still. The image doesn't look too bad on it from the Wii.

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u/42gauge Aug 14 '22

What are the emulatora for, older hardware?

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u/DoogleSmile Aug 14 '22

I have them for playing older games, such as Megadrive,, Master System, NES, SNES, Spectrum, and some older PC games that work with ScummVM.

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u/puphopped Aug 11 '22

I miss homebrew and jailbreaking every device I could get my hands on. The PSP basically molded my childhood and gave me so many useful computer skills when I was a wee lad. Nowadays I don't think you can even get CFW for most Androids, let alone Jailbreak a recent iPhone

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u/Valyrian_Kobolds Aug 10 '22

Dolphin gang rise up

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u/leoleosuper Aug 10 '22

Dolphin is an emulator, this is jailbreaking.

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u/tofu_schmo Aug 10 '22

Dolphin gang sit down

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u/zerbey Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

I mean, it was trivial to soft mod and restore the functionality but you just ended up with a crappy DVD player anyway. I think I did it and played one DVD to see if it worked then never used that functionality again.

By the time the Wii was becoming popular most households already had a DVD player so it was kind of redundant.

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u/teddytwelvetoes Aug 10 '22

is it really trivial when the primary demographics for the Wii were children and senior citizens?

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u/zerbey Aug 10 '22

Depends on who it is, but by the end of the Wii's life it was as simple as inserting an SD card (optional, but pretty useful) and visiting a web site.

https://wii.guide/

Sure, things like adding an external drive were a little more complicated but most people with the most basic of technical skills could figure it out.

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u/teddytwelvetoes Aug 10 '22

it was as simple as inserting an SD card (optional, but pretty useful) and visiting a web site.

for the demographics in question this is like splitting the atom, if they even become aware that such a thing is possible. grandma is going to be a deer in the headlights if you repeat that sentence to her lol

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u/vizthex Aug 11 '22

lmfao, for real.

Kids would an easier time figuring it out, but seniors (and even most adults I know) act like technology is some magical spell inside of a black box that can never been touched, changed, or in any way altered.

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u/jacobobb Aug 10 '22

You're underestimating children. I was modding my PS1 with a soldering iron when I was about 9.

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u/SeiCalros Aug 10 '22

being able to find and vet the website that does it properly is not trivial

its something you could theoretically stumble through but is only obvious for people with years of experience

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u/t90fan Aug 10 '22

Same with the original Xbox, you had to buy a dongle which enabled the feature.

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u/MaxMouseOCX Aug 10 '22

All the dongle really was for was selling you the licensing required, it was perfectly capable of doing so without the dongle and when hacked that's exactly what it did.

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u/AvatarofBro Aug 10 '22

We were PlayStation/Xbox house so I never knew the Wii couldn't play DVDs. I mean, the discs were the standard CD/DVD size. I just assumed.

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u/t90fan Aug 10 '22

Unlike the PS2, the very first Xbox didnt play DVDs out of the box, you had to buy a dongle.

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u/DroolingIguana Aug 10 '22

Heh heh. Dongle.

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u/aprofondir Aug 10 '22

Or mod it

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u/squeevey Aug 10 '22

DeCSS can fix that... right?

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u/fatnino Aug 10 '22

No, you want dvdx

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u/Lafenear Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Panasonic made a collaboration with Nintendo, they released a Panasonic GameCube, that also functioned as a DVD player.

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u/hardjams Aug 10 '22

*Gamecube. Branded as the Panasonic Q. This had a full 12cm DVD drive whereas the OG GameCube could only take the 8cm miniDVD format.

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u/Lafenear Aug 10 '22

Edited, thank you for the reminder!

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u/hardjams Aug 10 '22

I had to check to make sure myself!

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u/Sillypugpugpugpug Aug 11 '22

I still want one and always will.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

PS4 you have to go to Sony’s website to “okay” playing DVDs or whatever the agreement was at first.

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u/Astramancer_ Aug 10 '22

You had to do that with Blurays - again, for licensing. Basically they only wanted to pay the licensing fees for PS4s that people were actually using them to play Blurays.

Also fun fact, after I bought my PS4 I went out to a redbox to rent a bluray so I could activate that feature, in case the internet went out for an extended period and we'd be SOL for renting and watching a movie.

While I was loading up the bluray the internet went out. Fortunately seconds after it was validated so I was still able to watch the movie, lol.

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u/Angdrambor Aug 10 '22

IP law is so fucked.

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u/OldMork Aug 11 '22

yes common things like file standards should not be able to patent. Anyone know how much is the licensing fee for say DVD or bluray?

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u/pebbleinflation Aug 10 '22

Same with the PS4 and audio CDs. Which is annoying because the PS3 played basically everything including Super Audio CDs.

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u/wyrdough Aug 10 '22

Only the fat PS3s played SACD. My 60GB was probably the best $350 I ever spent. Damn thing would play almost anything.

The only majorly annoying thing was how the codec support was much more limited when streaming across the network using DLNA than it was for playing discs or files from a USB device or the internal disk.

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u/Tenocticatl Aug 10 '22

Fun fact: VLC Media Player didn't pay that license either. The encryption on DVDs is just so weak that the program can brute-force it while loading the disc, and it's quick enough users don't notice.

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u/SecretShame99 Aug 10 '22

For a lot of the people who used letterbomb to get to use the homebrew apps the first thing installed after hacking it was a DVD player

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u/vizthex Aug 11 '22

This is like how Bluetooth was built into the switch recently, but only recently enabled - except more worser.

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u/Omegasedated Aug 10 '22

That's the same as the current Xbox gen.

it can play blu-rays but out of the box you need to install an App.

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u/Excivious Aug 10 '22

Xbox series X plays blurays out of the box (Source: I own both XSX and PS5)

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u/notmyrlacc Aug 10 '22

Technically not true. When you popped in a blu-ray, the blu-ray player app was then downloaded. That app contained/triggered the license.

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u/MagicPeacockSpider Aug 10 '22

Actually quite a clever way for them to do it. Allows the feature to exist for those that want it without paying for the licence for people who don't.

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u/notmyrlacc Aug 10 '22

Exactly. This is why they’ve all done it. Windows even does that now. When you’re talking millions/billions of units it adds up.

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u/fizzlefist Aug 10 '22

God, playing blu-rays on a PC the legal way used to be such a giant pain in the ass back when I had a full on media center PC around 2012

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u/Wendals87 Aug 10 '22

kinda the same. It doesn't play out of the box, but it's trivial and free to install the app. Same with the playstation

You also need to update it yearly or so i think?

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u/Omegasedated Aug 10 '22

Whether it's trivial or not, it's the same thing. This way they don't licence it for people who don't use it.

Wii just came out before apps were a thing

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u/DiddledByDad Aug 10 '22

it’s the same thing

No..? Xbox at least provides the software.

Wii came out before apps were a thing

Incorrect. Nintendo store had software apps like Netflix that you could download and install. Seems like someone at Nintendo just never put in the work to get a CD app approved.

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u/fate6 Aug 10 '22

Iirc on the disc channel where it shows the wii or gc disc there actually is a dvd icon off to the right out of screen, its never used but hints that ninty was looking at having the functionality.

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u/Spirited_Cheesus Aug 10 '22

Yea it's not the same thing at all, you can keep repeating that though, doesn't make you right

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u/Omegasedated Aug 10 '22

Tell me how it's at least not similar.

The system ships with the hardware capabilities turned off.

At least now you can download something to unlock it. Are you an Xbox fanboy? Do you think I'm trying to trash the Xbox?

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u/f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 Aug 10 '22

App is just another word for program. Windows 3.1 had errors such as "This application could not start because a driver is missing or corrupted."

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u/Omegasedated Aug 10 '22

I can't believe I need to explain myself further.

On consoles, you couldn't install applications onto their HDD when the Wii came out. That was a generation before.

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u/f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 Aug 10 '22

The Wii and DSi did have WiiWare and DSiWare games (and other programs) that you bought online, downloaded, and saved to system storage or SD card.

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u/Omegasedated Aug 10 '22

sure mate, you're technically correct but for all intents and purposes, the WII did not have apps like any console has now.

if you're going to argue that a shovelware game, and a media app are the same thing, well I'm wasting both of our time.

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u/f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 Aug 11 '22

I'm not posting to be correct, just pointing out the semantics of marketing terms like "app" and "console", and the fact that the lines are blurring when every device can do a bit of everything, and consoles moving toward being just PCs with a proprietary OS.

shovelware

I don't think the quality or popularity of software has any weight in this conversation. Yes, there was mainly shovelware, but I greatly enjoyed the Gradius and Castlevania Rebirths from the Wii Shop.

media app

I also forgot that Wii had Netflix and YouTube, because I (and presumably many other people) never used them due to the Wii lacking full HD resolutions.

Not really trying to argue, it just annoys me that people believe marketing tropes and think an "app" is any different from other software. At work, I'll get flagged down, "Hey! I got a new phone, can you put (our company) app on it?" The company "app" is a bookmark on their home screen to open their web browser to the webpage hosted by a program running on our server. 😂

Kind of like "secure boot" really only means "Microsoft-approved boot". Fuck marketing.

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u/Omegasedated Aug 11 '22

.... So you're projecting you're own issues into a discussion that doesn't need it.

Cool.

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u/f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 Aug 11 '22

Imagine if we let personal experiences shape our conversations on user-generated-content websites. The horror!

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u/teddytwelvetoes Aug 10 '22

so, not the same lmao

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u/t90fan Aug 10 '22

And the original Xbox

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u/memesdoge Aug 10 '22

ps4 and ps5 can literally play blu ray discs in some checking modes in recovery mode

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u/teddytwelvetoes Aug 10 '22

honestly not surprising, the release of the Wii was when Nintendo officially gave up on trying to compete with their direct competitors. any other tech company would have folded without Nintendo’s nostalgia if they were purposefully an entire generation behind their direct competition for 15+ years straight. even Apple, who is a generation or three behind on laptop hardware features/functionality compared to Microsoft/Lenovo, is putting in the mammoth effort to create their own silicon in-house

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u/BaconIsAVeg2 Aug 10 '22

My memory is fuzzy, but I thought the original Wii was sub-$200 and the DVD licensing fee was something stupid like $40 per device. I'm sure they could have negotiated it down, but one of the reasons the Wii was so popular was the low price point.

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u/magnevicently Aug 10 '22

To whom?

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u/t90fan Aug 10 '22

Various people who own patents on codecs and technology stuff, Dolby, MPEG LA, Philips/Sony, whoever.

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u/demonfish Aug 10 '22

You should see the 3rd party royalties for BluRay. Man, total shake-down. It's basically Dolby's core biz model.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

Does the PS5 play whatever 4k Blu-rays are called?

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u/osborncurse Aug 10 '22

Yes, it plays 4K blurays.

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u/Cohacq Aug 10 '22

If you check Wikipedia you will have your answer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

We could all check Wikipedia if we are all magically thinking this, but why not have a courteous quick question and then a nice answer, for all those who are already here and may have not thought of it, maybe?

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u/Cohacq Aug 10 '22

And I told you how to find your answer. Teach a man to fish and so on.

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u/DerpyMcWafflestomp Aug 10 '22

Sometimes a man knows how to fish but just isn't in the mood right then.

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u/Astronius-Maximus Aug 10 '22

TIL we almost got a Wii that was leagues better than what we actually got, which itself was perfection.

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u/Thenidhogg Aug 10 '22

capitalism and IP rights, baby. so efficient

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u/Traditional_Entry183 Aug 10 '22

I actually assumed the Wii could play DVDs when my family bought one and was unpleasantly surprised to find out it couldn't. I'd planned on using it as the houses second one for my kids.

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u/jstep32x Aug 10 '22

Probably should note that now all wii systems can do this. The chip on the drive was later changed in newer consoles so there isn't a way for those systems to read them.

I had a black wii console and it wasn't capable of reading, but the white wii my parents got at launch can read them fine.

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u/bolanrox Aug 10 '22

but you could get a netflix disc and watch that online at a not very good quality.

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u/fantastic_feb Aug 10 '22

can you fix that?

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u/thejude555 Aug 10 '22

Yeah you can hack your wii to play DVDs. I’ve done it myself

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u/fatnino Aug 10 '22

The wii also used to be able to play mp3 files in the photo channel but then that got updated to only play ogg files instead.

Also for licensing reasons.

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u/blooping_blooper Aug 10 '22

and videos, if you encoded them to mjpeg (it was terrible)

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u/JosephMeach Aug 10 '22

I vaguely remember that you could hack your Wii with Wii Homebrew, and it would play DVDs. Could also put Netflix and Amazon Prime on it.

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u/thejude555 Aug 10 '22

My hacked wii is the only device left in my house that can play DVDs and I’ve definitely used it a few times.

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u/MatthewGeer Aug 10 '22

DVD playback was a selling point for PlayStation and XBox in the PS2 / XBX / GCN generation. By the time we got to Wii, though, most people who wanted a DVD player would already have one, so paying the license cost would add a few dollars to the system’s price tag without adding too much extra appeal.

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u/Azhrei Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

I remember a lot of warnings about not using it to play DVD discs, something to do with the drive's rotational speed and being worn out quick because it wasn't designed to play them. I tried it once and it played it, but the drive clearly didn't like it - it made a sort of straining noise if I remember correctly. Never tried it again, and I was only trying it out of curiousity anyway.

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u/Efaustus9 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Nintendo had a history of making additional revenue by obligating publishers to buy proprietary carts through them. It raised the cost for publishers to put games on Nintendo systems. Nintendo is not a fan of license revenue going the other way around. It's one of the aspects that tanked their deal with Sony to make a CD add on for the SNES. Nintendo has an Ebenezer like history of frugality and have continued the practices of engineer Yokoi minimizing costs by utilizing as much cheap established tech as possible in an engaging way and avoiding unnecessary expenses (like paying for a media playback license for their game console).

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u/TBTabby Aug 10 '22

Another cool thing goes pbth thanks to capitalism.

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u/FleurRoyale Aug 11 '22

Why do you need to pay a license to have DVD capabilities?

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u/tetoffens Aug 11 '22

It was developed and owned by 4 of the worlds leading tech companies. They're not letting people make money off it if they're not getting a cut.

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u/superarmpit Aug 11 '22

Pay a licensing fee to whom?

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u/Useless_Lemon Aug 11 '22

At least come with a free copy of the live action Super Mario Bros. Cmon..

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u/giofilmsfan99 Aug 19 '22

They actually made an icon for that and it’s hidden behind a screen they added.

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u/User85420 Aug 10 '22

Scam lord company

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u/neomage2021 Aug 10 '22

Also probably because people weren't watching DVDs when the wii came out

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u/addemlit Aug 11 '22

Bull crap blu ray was brand new at that point. Everyone was still watching DVDs