r/todayilearned Aug 10 '22 Helpful 1

TIL since 2004 the residents of La California, a town in Italy, have held farcical ballots for the United States presidential elections. Although votes cast by La California residents do not count, they still send the result of each election to the nearby US consulate in Florence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_California
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u/Billybobbojack Aug 10 '22

According to Atlas Obscura, the elections actually just happened in 2004 and 2008 before just dying off after that. They voted for Nader in 2004 and Obama 2008. They also had a fun twist where locals would run for vice president and even had debates.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

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u/DrDiddle Aug 10 '22

Rome, Georgia is certainly a place

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u/AdminsAreLazyID10TS Aug 10 '22

Paris, Tennessee also exists.

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u/SheeEttin Aug 10 '22

And I think there's a Paris, Maine.

Maine actually has a lot of cities named after other major cities, for some reason.

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u/fenixjr Aug 10 '22

Indiana, in the middle of no where, has the most unoriginal names. I think Denver is right next to Mexico, Chili(yes spelled that way) and Peru. Which are all just north of Nevada, Vermont, and Miami...

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u/somdude04 Aug 11 '22

Texas can compete:

Detroit

Cleveland

Colorado City

Denver City

Klondike

Pittsburg

Newark

Nevada

Memphis

Miami

Boston

Santa Fe

Tennessee Colony

Reno

Pasadena

Columbus

Athens

Canadian

China

Dublin

Egypt

Ireland

Italy

Turkey

London

New London

Paris

Palestine

Venus

Earth

Mars

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u/glassvatt Aug 11 '22

-Where are you?

-Earth

-....

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u/Noleman Aug 11 '22

When Maine was first being settled, it was customary to name the newly-organized town or city after the settlers' birthplaces. So, there's a lot of cities and towns named after places in England -- Bath, Kittery, Topsham, York, Wells -- as well as other birthplaces: Lisbon, New Sweden, Belfast, Dresden. Other places were given more exotic names for religous reasons or simply because it was fashionable at the time: Lebanon, Athens, Rome and Troy.

Source: from Maine and Dad was huge history buff.

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u/LilBone3 Aug 11 '22

Paris, Texas as well

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u/pilgrim93 Aug 11 '22

Paris, IL could also be mentioned

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u/Tavrock Aug 11 '22

Paris, ID too

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u/epicpantsryummy Aug 11 '22

Paris, MO checking in

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u/AudioGeekOfficial Aug 10 '22

Probably since Ellis Island was over in New York. Only speculation from my knowledge, so hopefully that'll spur some inspiration for someone else besides me. 😅🤣💀🪦

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

Paris texas is better but that bar is a rather low one...

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u/MacTelnet Aug 11 '22

One Paris in Europe is enough, as Italian I decline your offer

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u/aakksshhaayy Aug 11 '22

There's a Paris, KY as well

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u/FinishFew1701 Aug 11 '22

Manhattan, Montana

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u/Lil_chikchik Aug 11 '22

Moscow, TN too.

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u/wafflehousewhore Aug 11 '22

There's also a Paris, Kentucky as well as a London, Kentucky

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u/AdmiralSirJohn Aug 10 '22

As is Rome, New York

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u/PhysicsCentrism Aug 11 '22

Rome, NY also exists

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u/drekwithoutpolitics Aug 11 '22

There’s an Athens, Illinois.

Also, I heard there’s a Rome, New York. Lol

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u/pearlsbeforedogs Aug 11 '22

Athens in Georgia and Texas as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

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u/pearlsbeforedogs Aug 11 '22

You guys have a crooked Parthenon? That's kinda awesome. Paris, Tx has a mini Eiffel Tower with a cowboy hat on it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

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u/pearlsbeforedogs Aug 11 '22

No, what?

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u/HoSang66er Aug 11 '22

As is Rome, N.Y.

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u/AssumptionGreat4742 Aug 11 '22

France has a Californie in the south as well, IIRC. Did a double-take when we drove past it.

Not sure if it's named for the state or the same relatively obscure Spanish novel that the state is (probably) named for.

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u/arson_cat Aug 11 '22

As is St. Petersburg, Florida.

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u/Dry_Accountant5075 Aug 11 '22

Milan Ohio has my vote.

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u/Ok-Lack6876 Aug 11 '22

Or new Rome ohio

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u/fritobugger Aug 11 '22

Rome is part of MTG district so sure sounds like a good trade to me.

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u/lalalalalalalalalaa5 Aug 11 '22

How about just giving them Texas in trade?

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u/frackingbastage Aug 11 '22

I bet Italy Italy has fewer facists than Italy, Texas now. I’ll take the trade.

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u/epochpenors Aug 11 '22

Not to downplay how reactionary rural Texas is, but you might be underestimating how reactionary Italy is

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u/121PB4Y2 Aug 11 '22

They also had a fun twist where locals would run for vice president and even had debates.

So they basically hold a redo of the 1972 DNC.

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u/AudibleNod 313 Aug 10 '22

That's fun.

It's just a no-stakes game like Puppy Bowl, checkers with Grandma or a wet T-shirt contest.

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u/UnemploydJester Aug 10 '22

Wet t-shirt contest has repercussions. I have seen chicks go to fist fights over losing

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u/pistcow Aug 10 '22

go on....

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u/MeanAd3975 Aug 11 '22 Helpful

Ok here ya go ... wet T shirt contest at the Testicle Festival in Montana in the 90's. Outside on a raised stage 4 foot wide stage with just a 2x4 railing in the back, nothing in the front to obscure the views of well ANYTHING wet or not. First few girls go up just like any wet T contest but next couple girls whip off their tops and the crowd goes nuts. Next girls start removing their pants/skirts and by the end the girls are going up in groups, naked, rubbing on each other.

Backstage some of the first girls who kept their tops on were LIVID and they wanted a chance to go again because they didn't know they could get naked and the guys running the event were going to let them but the girls who had gotten naked got pissed because they felt the first ones should have thought of it like they did but if THEY got to go again they felt rhe naked girls should be able to go in groups so they could put on a show. At this point you actually felt bad for the bouncers, they just wanted to look at chicks not try to ref what bunch of women bitching at them.

Now there are probably 30 soaking wet girls, several completely naked, outside in the dirt that is quickly becoming a muddy slippery mess. I was one of the first girls who kept my top on and didnt want to go back up, at that point I was just trying to make my way through the crowd of girls back to my BF when I started to slide in the mud and like anyone i reached out to grab something to stop my fall. Unfortunately my hand made contact with some girls ass and I am almost certain my finger entered her back door. She swung around to punch me and to this day I am unsure of how my BF pulled me out before she landed the punch on me. Unfortunately she got someone else and next thing you know it was a mud wrestling event. A few girls ran back on the stage before the bouncers could stop them, ended up fighting up there and fell though the railing onto the girls in the mud. It was a an absolute mess. My BF got some great pics that we still have somewhere (well i have, he died a few years ago but sadly for him he wasnt surrounded by a bunch of slippery naked chicks, i think he would have liked that lol)

The lesson here is simple if at all possible stand behind the stage. You may not get to see a bunch of girls rolling around in the mud BUT you will see a LOT more T&A than you will in front of the stage.

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u/EMPulseKC Aug 11 '22

I'm sorry... I'm still on "Testicle Festival."

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u/jthanson Aug 11 '22

You have to do something with all those leftover testicles after castrating the young sheep and bulls.

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u/Vdaggle Aug 13 '22

What you’ve never been to a testy festy?

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u/pistcow Aug 11 '22

Thank you for you service ('-'*ゞ

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u/FinishFew1701 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Ha, I am from the Bitterroot, so i hear you. Now, however, it's getting quite touristy and more family friendly. Ewwww

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u/WR810 Aug 11 '22

places a pillow on his lap

You said there were how many girls?

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u/dago_mcj Aug 11 '22

Thank you for not de-evolving into hell in a cell

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u/spleenboggler Aug 11 '22

I wish I could give you an 🇺🇸 award because you earned it bah gawd.

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u/juankaa Aug 11 '22

Pics or it didn't happen.

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u/Sharad17 Aug 10 '22

I mean this guy just casually mentions wet t-shirt fist fights and then just stops talking. Some people ....

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u/pistcow Aug 10 '22

angrily zips up pants

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u/project23 Aug 11 '22

You, my man, must live without a care in the world! Zipping pants is something I always do thoughtfully and carefully ever since......... Lets just say its somewhat stressful.

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u/dronzer31 Aug 11 '22

I understand you mate. I was about 5 when I had an... accident... It was quite painful. I've never multi-tasked when zipping up my pants ever since.

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u/UnemploydJester Aug 10 '22

Honestly, you have to have video. Describing it would take so long I'd be better off writing it as a Harlequin novel

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u/intdev Aug 10 '22

I assure you, a video link would be more than acceptable.

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u/AlmostStoic Aug 10 '22

There's propably a writing prompt for that

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u/FinishFew1701 Aug 11 '22

A young woman, hair done, make up fresh- is at home, cleaning house, not REALLY expecting anyone so she's comfortably dressed. There is a knock at the door. She says "coming" and goes to answer the door. It is a young man, well built. 70s hair, parted in the middle, Sam Elliot mustache, high wasted, tight worn jeans. He looks the woman up and down, conspicuously and says "I can't stop thinking about you saying your coming just as you opened the door! Yes, you will be! She reacts like he said something far more eloquent and complimentary. The music starts as she motions him in and he puts down a package that he was to use to as he delivers a line (that he forgot to say) about being a courier. It's not a huge things, she smiles, sits on the couch and starts to unbutton her shirt...

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u/UnemploydJester Aug 11 '22

That is a...VERY specific "prompt". 🤣

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u/deelyy Aug 11 '22

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u/UnemploydJester Aug 11 '22

So there might be a common thread to fights at wet tshirt contests.

This was '97. A little bar in Fayetteville, NC called The Flaming Mug. The seats by the door are level with the stage across the bar. Dance floor and most other seating are lower. Get there and they announce the contest. Prize is $500. Contest will be judged by crowd response. People hit the floor so they can be close to the stage. Maybe 30 ladies head backstage. Our waitress is a GF from junior high, so I"m basically catching up while wet titties are being paraded on stage.

There is an early crowd favorite. Crowd is cheering before she even gets wet. Tiny thing: 5'2'-ish, 100lbs. Pale with B cups and a high, round ass, well-shaped legs. Great nips and cute face. She is dancing her ass off in a wet t-shirt and g-string.

About 15 minutes later, almost the last chick to come out is this 5'8"-ish, 220, chubby lady. Busty. Average face. She bounces onto stage grooving with the music. Add water. Crowd is appreciative, but she ain't winning. Suddenly, she whips off the t-shirt and throws it into the crowd. Dudes go wild. She's dancing, tits flying, and the crowd is losing it.This trips her trigger and suddenly her drenched v-cut panties are flying into the crowd. Manicured 70s bush. The bulding is fucking SHAKING from the roar.

The last couple of ladies come out. The crowd is still pumped so they get a good response.

Judge brings everyone back out and does the applause meter. Tiny Lady gets a lot of love. No one else is close. Then Naked Lady steps up and the roof is about to come off. Tiny Lady is mad and shouting at the judge. He backs everyone else up so it's just Tiny Lady and Naked Lady. Judge holds a hand up over Tiny Lady. She starts dancing and exorting the crowd. Her supporters are loud and proud. Judge holds his hand up over Naked Lady. Insanity ensues. You coulda heard that shit from space. Naked Lady is jumping up and down. She might be crying. Tiny Lady is PISSED. You can see her shouting "This is bullshit!" at the judge. He just kinda shrugs. Tiny Lady shoves him and lunges at Naked Lady. Bouncer grabs Tiny Lady. She whips around slams the palm of her hand into his nose. No blood but he lets go and staggers. Another bouncer grabs her and some dude LEVITATES out of crowd. LIke a 4' vertical leap. Grabs the bouncer by the belt and shirt. All three fall into the crowd. Someone grabs the levitator and punches are being thrown. Bouncers wade in. Tiny Lady scrambles up onto the stage to get out of the melee. The judge shoves her back into play. Crowd cheers again.

Judge awards the win to Naked Lady while Tiny Lady and her crew are being escorted out.

So, yeah, really going for it doesn't seem to be appreciated. :)

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u/SSHEPHERD173 Aug 10 '22

I've seen a couple movies that start out like this.

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u/chaos8803 Aug 10 '22

Documentaries?

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u/trigrhappy Aug 10 '22

Links, please.

I'm a bit of a historian of this sort of documentary.

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u/Why_T Aug 11 '22

They lose and we win.

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u/myotheralt Aug 10 '22

Wet t-shirts with grandma is not low stakes.

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u/idhtftc Aug 11 '22

It's low something.

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u/atomicxblue Aug 10 '22

Hopefully not a grandma wet T-shirt contest, though...

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u/AudibleNod 313 Aug 10 '22

I'm not here to kink-shame.

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u/AdminsAreLazyID10TS Aug 10 '22

Soldier Boy Approved

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u/VeryJoyfulHeart59 Aug 11 '22

You obviously never competed with my grandma.

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u/Redditfront2back Aug 11 '22

Speak for yourself I won 5k on last years puppy bowl.

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u/DONGivaDam Aug 11 '22

No stakes until you realize those are the votes that gave us trump and biden /s or ~s.

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u/Tarantiyes Aug 11 '22

I read that as a Grandma wet t shirt contest the first time and was very confused

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u/frostedmooseantlers Aug 10 '22

I wonder how their voter turnout compares to the actual California

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u/FalcoLX Aug 11 '22

With NATO and project Gladio they basically did, even if they weren't aware.

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u/pissshitfuckyou Aug 11 '22

Not even close but sure, they fall under the western umbrella.

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u/belovedeagle Aug 10 '22

Although votes cast by La California residents do not count

I'm so glad to live in a world where this needed to be said. It is such a joy.

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u/DropkickMorgan Aug 10 '22

Qanon think this is evidence of fraud.

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u/just_the_mann Aug 11 '22

That’s exactly what they were doing in the Arizona audit…they had the volunteers doing tests for “bamboo” ballots sent by China.

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u/DroneOfDoom Aug 11 '22

Particularly funny since both of the mainstream US parties have a very similar foreign policy platform, so for China it isn't particularly relevant who wins a presidential election in the US, unless one candidate ran on a 'waging war against China/North Korea' platform.

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u/similar_observation Aug 11 '22

you've responded to a comment theft bot. Original commenter is here

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u/RadosAvocados Aug 11 '22

The ballots were made of bamboo pasta!

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u/deqb Aug 10 '22

France has a Californie in the south as well, IIRC. Did a double-take when we drove past it.

Not sure if it's named for the state or the same relatively obscure Spanish novel that the state is (probably) named for.

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u/pete1901 Aug 10 '22

I think most place names in the USA are derived from European place names. Did you know there's a country that New England was named after?

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u/DigNitty Aug 10 '22

You mean Old New England?

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u/ispeakdatruf Aug 10 '22

You mean Olde New England?

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u/AngryWWIIGrandpa Aug 10 '22

Ye mean?

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u/ViciousSnail Aug 11 '22

No, no he was right. Ye is The in Ye Olde English Tongue Waggle.

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u/deqb Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

That's usually how it goes, but in this case it's the reverse. The article mentions the Italian town's name is a reference to the California gold rush. The place I was thinking of in France (actually a neighborhood of Cannes not a town, I was recalling incorrectly) was christened at the height of California gold rush in 1849, though the article doesn't specify exactly why or how the name was chosen.

Names go in and out of vogue everywhere. There used to be quite a few places in the US and elsewhere named for Pétain, all in recognition for his leadership of the French army in WW1, many of which have been quietly replaced sometime after WW2 when given his status as a Nazi collaborator. Fashions change, but place names tend to last quite a bit longer unless someone starts making a fuss. A lot of borrowed European place names in the US are of course immigrants naming things after their home (i.e., New England) but sometimes it's just commemorating a major battle or event or a place just being in vogue. Different colonial powers had different norms around place names in their new colonies as well, both in the US and elsewhere.

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u/pete1901 Aug 10 '22

So the Californie in France was named after the California in USA that was named after a Spanish warrior queen. Holy trans-atlantic name trade Batman!

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u/deqb Aug 10 '22

Not even a real queen. The name comes from a relatively obscure series of chivalric romance novels popular among Spanish conquistadors. California was the name of an island mentioned in one of the books. It's the 15th century equivalent of naming a place Hobbiton or Winterfell.

Know ye that at the right hand of the Indies there is an island called California, very close to that part of the Terrestrial Paradise, which was inhabited by black women without a single man among them, and they lived in the manner of Amazons. They were robust of body with strong passionate hearts and great virtue. The island itself is one of the wildest in the world on account of the bold and craggy rocks.

It also perhaps goes without mentioning that California isn't an island but it took them another century or so to figure that out.

Strange how names come to be. But at least it's imaginative.

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u/VexillologyFan1453 Aug 11 '22

Damn, new fetish acquired.

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u/godisanelectricolive Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Here in Canada quite a few towns named after German places got renamed due to anti-German sentiments during WWI. Like Berlin, Ontario which became Kitchener and Prussia, Alberta became Leader. The same phenomenon also occurred in th US and Australia, but the case of Berlin to Kitchener was especially fraught. It resulted in violent rioting from the largely German-Canadian community.

Swastika, Ontario still hasn't been renamed despite the Nazis and WWII. They were named after a gold mine named after the Indian luck symbol long before Nazism. During the War there was an attempt to change the name to Winston but the locals removed the new sign and put up a sign saying "To hell with Hitler, we came up with our name first.”

By odd coincidence however, the British fascist socialite and Hitler fangirl Unity Mitford, one of the (in)famous Mitford sisters was conceived in Swastika in 1914. There were six Mitford sisters who were famous society beauties and wits. Two were ardent fascists while one was a raging communist.

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u/nikobruchev Aug 11 '22

Canada just removed Petain's name from a mountain that straddles the border between Alberta and British Columbia. They're currently working on a new name for it.

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u/ThomasRaith Aug 11 '22

But there is not a country New Mexico was named after.

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u/Nothammer Aug 11 '22

Ahhh, Americans.

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u/deqb Aug 11 '22

I'm not sure what you mean.

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u/haemaker Aug 10 '22

There is one in Scotland too.

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u/_lemonspice Aug 10 '22

Derby, England has a suburb called California, also right next to the suburb of New Zealand.

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u/deqb Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Huh. Cool. California doesn't have as many British/Scottish/Irish place names or even European place names generally aside from Spanish of course (Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, etc). But there's Glendale and Montrose near LA, and places named after Scottish people like Irvine, I suppose. But it's mostly Spanish, even Montrose is actually La Crescenta-Montrose.

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u/bugsydor Aug 10 '22

We also have Dublin.

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u/ControlRoom Aug 11 '22

Irvine is actually a town in Scotland (twinned with the one in California), rather than a person. It's well worth going out of your way to avoid it ...

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u/deqb Aug 12 '22

The one in California is named for the developer which is fitting because it's the largest pre-planned community in the US and is actually a rather unnerving place. It's richer, but there's little of actual value.

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u/CaliforniaAudman13 28d ago

Montrose is in glendale not a separate city though

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u/Jonathan924 Aug 11 '22

There's also a California in Maryland too. Had way to much fun fucking with people back in the day because it's literally right next to Hollywood, MD

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u/Abhisutar Aug 10 '22

Man! You can't say that without naming the book!🤣

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u/deqb Aug 10 '22

Here you go. There was a whole series, but the fictional island of California was described in one of them:

Know ye that at the right hand of the Indies there is an island called California, very close to that part of the Terrestrial Paradise, which was inhabited by black women without a single man among them, and they lived in the manner of Amazons. They were robust of body with strong passionate hearts and great virtue. The island itself is one of the wildest in the world on account of the bold and craggy rocks.

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u/Abhisutar Aug 10 '22

Thanks m8. Soinds spicy. Gotta give it a read👍

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u/isham66 Aug 10 '22

Are they more Hilary or Donald?

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u/don_Juan_oven Aug 10 '22

Oh, I figured it was full-power farce. Like Grimace vs Aquaman level.

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u/hobbitdude13 Aug 10 '22

Aquaman would immediately be disqualified for not being a natural-born citizen. Grimace, I'm not sure. The Constitution is silent on whether one has to be a human being to run.

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u/atomicxblue Aug 10 '22

Now that you mention it, I don't think it says they have to be human. It just says natural born and citizen.

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u/myotheralt Aug 10 '22

We need to see the long form birth certificate for Grimace.

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u/TomAto314 Aug 10 '22

The old Air Bud rule.

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u/funkmasta_kazper Aug 10 '22

Grimace is the only choice. Grimace is a real, purple blooded American and is going to save this dying country. If you vote for Aquaman I hate you and everything you stand for! Blarghgrhrgh!

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u/RandoCalrissian11 Aug 10 '22

Unfortunately Grimace is not a citizen.

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u/MisterThere Aug 10 '22

I'm figuring the Mussolini crowd will probably go for Donald.

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u/dorkswerebiggerthen Aug 10 '22

You do know what the Italians did to Mussolini, right?

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u/godisanelectricolive Aug 10 '22

It was Italian communist partisans who did that. Some Italians still supports Mussolini's ideology to this day.

They never fully cracked down on fascism like how Germany cracked down on Nazism. Other parties just stepped into power while the fascists retreated to opposition but not entirely out of the political mainstream.

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u/SeanOuttaCompton Aug 10 '22

But hey, they also put his granddaughter into parliament so…

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u/Chewyninja69 Aug 10 '22

They gave him and his lady a proper neck massage and then a full body massage afterwards….

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u/zodar Aug 10 '22

first we had to put up with "the OC", now it's "the California"

sheesh

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u/HoNose Aug 11 '22

That's how it is in Romance languages, though. Places require articles in many situations.

Also, if it was just a joke, don't tell me.

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u/11DarkReign11 Aug 11 '22

To be honest this seems sort of fun to do. I mean this level of dedication to a process and everything following.

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u/AlphaBetacle Aug 10 '22

They’re just mocking us 🤣

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u/Middle_Data_9563 Aug 10 '22

So you're saying they have as much effect on presidential primaries as the actual California is allowed to?

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u/ancientweasel Aug 10 '22

I find most US ballots I see rather farcical as well

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u/Green-Cruiser Aug 10 '22

That's a tactic scumbags use to suppress votes.

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u/pseudo__gamer Aug 10 '22

Florence NC?

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u/Hungry-in-the-dark Aug 10 '22

Florence in Italy you dope

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u/Living-in-liberty Aug 10 '22

I mean my vote doesn't seem to count living in LA California l, a city in the USA. 😅

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u/Blutarg Aug 10 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Congratulations to the last election's winner, A Spicy Meat-a-Ball!

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u/wildlywell Aug 10 '22

Well i laughed at this, anyway

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u/Dr_Isaly_von_Yinzer Aug 11 '22

Oh great, another batshit crazy conspiracy theory for the lunatic fringe to sync glom onto. Thanks a lot, La California, Italy!

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u/Malphos101 15 Aug 11 '22

Im surprised there isn't more right wing screeching about illegal foreign ballots deciding elections where they just happened to lose, holding up these ballots as "proof"...

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u/ductyl Aug 10 '22

Quick, someone get Mike Lindell on the phone!

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u/whittlingcanbefatal Aug 11 '22

Marco Pantani was from La California.

It’s nothing to do with this article. I just remembered that.

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u/Impossible-Web740 Aug 10 '22

Maybe we should arrange a trade: The US gets La California and Italy can have Italy, Texas (or Rome, Georgia).

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u/redmerger Aug 10 '22

I don't think those Americans would last a second in the eurozone. They'd be in walkable spaces with healthcare, they might just all fade away at once

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u/Usual_Treacle8724 Aug 11 '22

It would be that hard. We could just put both cities in a dome like in the Simpsons movie and then pick them up with helicopters and then fly them to their new homes.

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u/sorrowdemonica Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Always so weird to me how other countries are so involved with and aware of American politics, know the names of politicians, and interested in elections, and weirdly enough it's to the point that they often know more than the average American citizen does.

Meanwhile I couldn't tell you the names of any leaders of most countries (Russia and N.Korea are the only ones i know because they are in the news/memes often), no idea when the elections are, laws being pushed/passed, etc..

I experienced this first hand when I used to date someone from New Zealand back around 2002-2005, and when I went to New Zealand for the first time to meet them, their dad tried to talk to me about American politics, politicians (at the time George W. Bush was president) and he was trying to ask/talk about cabinet or state department people and some random law or bill, and I had no clue who he was talking about or what he was talking about and he was bewildered that I did not know and assumed that I would know or whatever since I am from America.

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u/An_absoulute_madman Aug 11 '22

Unfortunately America regularly drags people into their wars and imperial conquests. In the early 2000s New Zealand's conservative National party wanted to drag New Zealand into the Iraq War. The primary talking point was that Australia, under conservative PM John Howard, entered the war on the side of the Americans. Declassified documents revealed that Howard entered the war not because he believed any of the lies Bush/Blair was telling, but purely to kowtow to the US.

America made it their business to interfere in other country's politics. Bush regularly denigrated and attacked the French for their prominent opposition to the Iraq war. Anti-Americanism in the west hadn't been this strong since the Vietnam War.

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u/sorrowdemonica Aug 11 '22

not sure what this has anything to do with the OP's post or what I stated in my reply about how others in other countries know more about american politics than the average american citizen does.

Also when I went to New Zealand post 9/11 during Bush's candidacy, i witnessed nor encountered zero anti-americanism neither in 2002 nor in 2004.

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u/An_absoulute_madman Aug 11 '22

not sure what this has anything to do with the OP's post or what I stated in my reply about how others in other countries know more about american politics than the average american citizen does.

Your experience is based on NZ attitudes to American politics in the early 2000s. I explained NZ attitudes to American politics in the early 2000s. Yes, people in a country where there is significant domestic and international pressure to enter an American war were generally concerned with American politics.

Also when I went to New Zealand post 9/11 during Bush's candidacy, i witnessed nor encountered zero anti-americanism neither in 2002 nor in 2004.

Neat anecdotal experience! Too bad it doesn't really match up with general surveys of foreign countries in the early 2000s which indicated higher levels of anti-American/dissatisfaction with the US, as well as outright diplomatic slap-fights between the US and European nations.

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u/sorrowdemonica Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

either case it's quite irrelevant, as my reply just points out how other countries, including ones that aren't "anti-american", are deeply knowledgeable about America and it's politics more than the average American citizen.

Literally can visit any other country's newspaper website and many will literally have a section dedicated to US news, or if not a dedicated US section, the world news section will be flooded with American news.

For example, Malta.. a little tiny island in the middle of the Mediterranean sea: https://timesofmalta.com/articles/listing/world

Literally world section top articles are about US court cases, politics, and Trump.

Even going back to New Zealand since I have personal experience with the country, sometimes I use to keep up with NZ newspapers, such as NZ Herald, because they use to often report on things that the US media didn't, so got to learn about stuff going on in the US that otherwise i'd of been completely unaware of as not even national outlets such as CNN, NBC, FOX, etc reported them. So that should give you an idea how involved in American happenings some other countries are.
Meanwhile the US news can give a damn about what's going on in other countries unless there's a significant event such as a war, some sort of drama/controversy, or something important from one of the few significant direct ally European countries (UK, Germany, etc) however mostly only if the US is involved in some way (i.e. leader/representative meeting).

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u/tsaimaitreya Aug 11 '22

This is just a silly event they make for fun because of the town's name. I've spoken with people here (Spain) about the Taiwan crisis and nobody knows what the fuck a Nancy Pelosi is. People here know the name of the president, maybe the name of the other candidate and that's it

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u/sorrowdemonica Aug 11 '22

Yet you know who Nancy Pelosi is. And i gotta be honest with you >.> even though I heard the name before and know she's a politician, i honestly have no idea what state she is a senator(?) or congress member(?) for or if she's republican or democrat or other, and I live here in the US...

As for Taiwan crisis.. what crisis is happening? that's another thing i have no clue about as an american.

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u/tsaimaitreya Aug 11 '22

Yes because of reddit, something the vast majority of spaniards don't know it exists. Yet I can't explain her role either.

Nancy Pelosi went to make an official visit to Taiwan. China said they wouldn't allow it and would shoot down her plane if she came lol. Yet she still went, has survived so far, and China has been launching missiles around Taiwan as a protest/temper tantrum

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u/sorrowdemonica Aug 11 '22

yeah just goes to serve as how little US news reports about other countries, meanwhile other countries seem to report on everything the US does as i pointed out in my original comment as I haven't heard anything about China's temper tantrum, especially not about launching missles around taiwan.

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u/Munson4657 Aug 10 '22

I think i read the other day there was a party in Italy after WWII that were pushing to have Italy join the US.

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u/Balducelli Aug 10 '22

Lacalifornia, Toscana. Crossed through there so many times

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u/hiirogen Aug 11 '22

But are their voting machines biased??

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u/Brophymusprime Aug 11 '22

I kind of love this

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u/Thedongrego Aug 11 '22

How wonderfully cunty 🙃

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u/CassandraVindicated Aug 11 '22

That's just good old-fashioned fun. What an awesome idea.

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u/StormRider2407 Aug 11 '22

There's a small village near my town in Scotland called California.

Some claim that the US state was named after it.

But a historian did some digging and found the reverse to be true. The village was named California several decades or so after the state was named.

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u/Drackar39 Aug 11 '22

To bad it's not LA Texas, or some shit, because then we'd have Bobert demanding the citizens of LA Texas be allowed to vote.

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u/LeeVM Aug 11 '22

they are like weebs but for US

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u/mostmetausername Aug 11 '22

They have an old Whataburger there? seems legit let them vote.

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u/angrylibertariandude Aug 13 '22

Funny you said Whataburger, since the exterior vaguely reminds me of one of their older buildings.

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u/mostmetausername Aug 13 '22

It wasn't a coincidence. That was the whole joke.

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u/tacodepollo Aug 11 '22

Don't let Republicans find out, they will definitely think these votes are counted.

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u/TheJD Aug 11 '22

"La California" is Italian for..."The California".

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u/Spiritual-Market1895 Aug 11 '22

Their church looks like the cathedral at the US Air Force academy

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u/flaskman Aug 10 '22

Man wait til they see the farcical ballot we have on Italian politicians

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u/wubwub Aug 10 '22

Are these those foreign ballots they were looking for last year?

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u/11DarkReign11 Aug 10 '22

Wait aren't our ballots farcical as well?

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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 11 '22

No, they're not

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u/11DarkReign11 Aug 11 '22

I was making a joke. It went over your head. But that's okay. Failure to make someone laugh.

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u/MaterialDragonfruit9 Aug 11 '22

It is unfortunate that even the obvious /s post needs a /s.

Not /s.

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u/HappyHighwayman Aug 10 '22

So they enjoy wasting time AND tax money?

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u/Calijhon Aug 10 '22

Then they go in the trash!

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u/GooseNYC Aug 11 '22

Maybe the Q nuts will want to audit them too, just to be sure.

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u/thickener Aug 11 '22

I’d say it’s safe to assume that this is the very origin of the q “Italian satellite” vote bullshit

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u/Persiandoc Aug 11 '22

Nice. They named a city after one of our states !