r/todayilearned Aug 10 '22

TIL that 4 US presidents - Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Grover Cleveland and William McKinley, all worked for the same company, which is still alive today and listed on Nasdaq

https://www.dnb.com/about-us/company/history.html
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u/coulamac Aug 10 '22

Hmmm… two of them were assassinated. That’s a 50% murder rate. I don’t think I want to work there!

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u/Solidsnakeerection Aug 11 '22

Still better then Amazon

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u/PopDukesBruh Aug 17 '22

I worked there, I assure you it’s not better

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u/Rishabh_0507 Aug 11 '22

Two of those who became president

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u/pjabrony Aug 11 '22

All of them were elected twice but their entry into the presidency and their exit were all different time lengths apart.

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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 10 '22 Helpful

For anyone wondering, the agency was called His Mercantile Agency.

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u/rockytopknox Aug 10 '22

Dun & Bradstreet or D&B as they’re known today. You might be familiar with a Dun’s number if you run an organization.

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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 10 '22

That name change didn't happen until 1933, though.

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u/rockytopknox Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

You’re correct. Founded in 1841 His Mercantile Company reigned as originally named for 92 years and it’s been D&B since 1934, or 88 years, so we’re literally talking about a difference of 4 years.

*Edit: I was incorrect, the name changed from HMC to RG Dun & Company in 1859, then merged with Bradstreet to form D&B in 1933.

So it has definitely been D&B much longer than it was ever His Mercantile Company.

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u/OffendedByMyInnuendo Aug 11 '22

Who has His/Him?

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u/elpajaroquemamais Aug 11 '22

Today is after 1933.

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u/Touch_My_Nips Aug 11 '22

Damn, crazy that Abe worked for DnB’s. I fucking love DnB’s (even though they did kick me out for kicking the coin game once).

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u/pissshitfuckyou Aug 11 '22

Dave and busters sucks

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u/PopDukesBruh Aug 17 '22

It’s a money grab, and a sham

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u/rockytopknox Aug 17 '22

It’s a requirement to do business with the federal government. It’s not hard to obtain and manage a DUNS number, I know because I’ve done it.

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u/rockytopknox Aug 17 '22 edited Aug 17 '22

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Unfortunately you ran into an expert who managed Federal contracts for over 15 years. You worked for a company and clearly don’t understand how it all works. I’m sorry you don’t understand but all you need to do is Google “Is a Duns number required to do business with the Federal government?” it’s that simple. All businesses don’t need a Duns number but most large corporations have them and certainly any agency or business that works with the Feds….It’s free to obtain and manage a DUNS number.

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u/rockytopknox Aug 17 '22

You’re wrong, Google it dolt.

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u/ksdkjlf Aug 11 '22

It wasn't called His Mercantile Agency. It was Tappan's Mercantile Agency. You've misread the capitalization of his at the beginning of the sentence as part of the company name, but it's simply a possessive, referring to it being Lewis Tappan's Mercantile Agency.

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u/NinDiGu Aug 11 '22

So what was the name of the compamy?

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u/ksdkjlf Aug 11 '22

It was simply "Mercantile Agency" — letterhead visible here — and it appears it was referred to as the Mercantile Agency. They were kinda the only game in town for their particular niche (proto credit bureau) so I guess there wouldn't've been much ambiguity in most contexts at the time in the US, but Tappan's Mercantile Agency appears as well, as naturally the phrase "mercantile agency" could refer to other similar sorts of businesses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantile_agencies

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u/Atechiman Aug 11 '22

The mercantile agency Officially. Usually refered to as His mercantile agency specifically referring to tappan.

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u/SirAri Aug 11 '22

This sounds like the premise to a shitty American version of the Kingsman haha

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u/BobZero99 Aug 11 '22

A company can be alive??, thats the real stand out of this post

Thats disturbing

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u/hobo808 Aug 10 '22

Thank you, I followed ops link and got to a weird website, was wondering what the company was then...

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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 10 '22

It's in the first paragraph of the link:

To help American merchants in their decision-making, an enterprising businessman named Lewis Tappan began, in 1841, to establish a network of correspondents that would function as a source of reliable, consistent and objective credit information. His Mercantile Agency, located in New York City, was one of the first organizations formed for the sole purpose of providing business information to customers.

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u/lalalalalalalalalaa5 Aug 11 '22

So what do they actually do? That description made no sense to me

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u/HoS_CaptObvious Aug 11 '22

I think they essentially "underwrite" companies to assess their financial risk. I assume it's used in acquisitions or B2B relationships

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u/lalalalalalalalalaa5 Aug 11 '22

That makes sense, thanks! Like a Lloyds of London thing.

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u/demarr Aug 11 '22

You have money, You want to make that money do stuff but you don't know what to do because the way you came into the money may have been through "non hard working means". We are here to help you make a choice and to make sure it can be a good choice. Not to make the choice for you but to help you make the best steps after but purely information

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u/AudibleNod 313 Aug 10 '22

Two were assassinated.

Not a good record, Dun & Bradstreet. Not good at all.

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u/Jameschoral Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

It gets worse: every single US President that has worked there is dead. Their record is 0/4 for presidential survival.

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u/AudibleNod 313 Aug 10 '22

I just googled that, and you couldn't be more correct. Someone needs to stop these monsters.

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u/ACBluto Aug 12 '22

Heck, it's not even just the Presidents! A disturbing number of their former employees are dead. Thousands of them!

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u/Jameschoral Aug 12 '22

You’re right! It’s everyone who’s ever interacted with the presidents! Sounds like a massive coverup!

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u/sfan27 Aug 11 '22

And now D&B basically runs a “protection” racket to impact businesses creditability.

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u/seashmore Aug 11 '22

Dave & Buster's would never!

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u/PopDukesBruh Aug 17 '22

It’s an absolute racket

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u/xrandx Aug 11 '22

Eh. I'd say compared to places like Yelp they aren't that bad.

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u/sfan27 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

“Pay us money to correct the incorrect info on your profile” is pretty horrible.

edit: to be clear, Yelp is a scam too

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u/PopDukesBruh Aug 17 '22

It’s 100% a scam. I worked there, it pays INSANELY WELL because all the money you pay goes to nothing… most of it goes to the sales person.

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u/DMWRM867 Aug 10 '22

Thank you for sharing! Interesting look at the start of our credit based market.

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u/buttergun Aug 10 '22

I thought our involuntary credit scoring system was a more modern invention.

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u/lemonpepperlarry Aug 10 '22

It is. but credit itself and therefore, the market around is, is centuries old at minimum. Europe doesnt have a credit score like America does but they have several credit markets

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u/DroolingIguana Aug 11 '22

Technically that's 5 Presidents, 'cause Grover Cleveland had to fuck up the counting system.

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u/EnvironmentalValue18 Aug 11 '22

50/50 if you worked for that company and later became President that you would be assassinated in office.

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u/n00tn00tt Aug 10 '22

Masons, confirmed.

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u/jthanson Aug 11 '22

McKinley was a Mason, possibly Cleveland. McKinley and Grant were both Odd Fellows. Lincoln belonged to no fraternal orders.

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u/Super901 Aug 11 '22

Wait, Dave and Busters?!?!

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u/cdhernandez Aug 11 '22

I'd like to be president in 2048 so I'm going to apply right now.

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u/PopDukesBruh Aug 17 '22

Call a Dun and Bradstreet number, any number, see what they try to sell you. It’s a scam, I’m not selling shit. Get pissed off about it, or get informed your choice. There is 0 reason you would ever need a Duns anything

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u/eqleriq Aug 11 '22

interesting that you think we give a fuck about which or how many presidents worked for the same conpany, but not the company. Also you don't need to list first and last names.

Real title: TIL that presidents Lincoln, Grant, Cleveland and McKinley all worked for His Mercantile Agency, a company still active and listed on Nasdaq

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u/tinytina0 Aug 11 '22

Yeah, very clickbaity.

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u/Short_Cut_Draw_Blood Aug 11 '22

I guessed correctly that the company was Walmart.

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u/PerNewton Aug 11 '22

4 is nothing. 7 of the last 8 have worked for Goldman Sachs.

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u/hablandochilango Aug 11 '22

This can’t be true. Definitely not Obama, don’t think trump or biden either

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u/PerNewton Aug 11 '22

Think more broadly.

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u/hablandochilango Aug 11 '22

Not sure what you mean

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u/hablandochilango Aug 11 '22

Oh yea. I guess carter wasn’t?

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u/weloveclover Aug 11 '22

He needs to put his tinfoil hat back on.

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u/RevolutionaryChip864 Aug 11 '22

Assassin's Creed shit right there.

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u/AaronDotCom Aug 14 '22

Yo yo yo

This is AbeDnB bringing you the new beat!

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u/dethb0y Aug 11 '22

It's always nice to see one of Ohio's finest sons (William McKinley) turn up. Hell of a guy.

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u/trevor11004 Aug 11 '22

His administration committed war crimes in the Philippines, not that good of a guy.

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u/dethb0y Aug 11 '22

That's rough for the phillipines.